Hope you are well! I was listening to Jack Nicklaus talking with Peter Kessler dude on the radio. Jack said "I think today's game 80% about POWER where as in my day it was 80% precision." He went on to say that Hogan and Player wouldn't be able to compete today . . .and maybe even he couldn't. He said that the top 5 money winners weren't in the top 100 in driving accuracy and had chosen Power over Accuracy because it benefited them.
What do you think about that? Do you think courses should be set up different or left the same? Does a short to medium length hitter have a chance out there?
Thanks man!
B
Gary Player held a clinic at a local course after the The Open and was asked if the old time greats Hogan, Trevino, Snead , Player etc) would have been able to compete with today's power hitting top players. He said without a doubt they would be a force to be reckoned with. He felt that the differences in equipment would have influenced their games and a Champion in one era would be a Champion in another. He said Nicklaus would have been as long as Tiger if he had modern equipment in his hands when in his prime and when he played against him he was hitting it way past him but still managed to compete.. Having played with the greats from several eras he felt could answer this question with authority. The real question as far as he was concerned was how the modern players would cope with playing with Persimmon , balata balls and poor quality by modern standards steel shafts against the former greats on the old set ups. He felt it would be easier going from old to modern than the other way round . The biggest difference is the modern ball in his opinion.
Hue, unless I misunderstood the comments Player and a few others who have commented on this, was making the point indirectly that the swings of past Champions would have been different than they were cause of the equipment.
Gary Player held a clinic at a local course after the The Open and was asked if the old time greats Hogan, Trevino, Snead , Player etc) would have been able to compete with today's power hitting top players. Having played with the greats from several eras he felt could answer this question with authority. The real question as far as he was concerned was how the modern players would cope with playing with Persimmon, balata balls and poor quality by modern standards steel shafts against the former greats on the old set ups. He felt it would be easier going from old to modern than the other way round. The biggest difference is the modern ball in his opinion.
Leave it to Gary Player to turn the tables.
How would the 'old guys' do against the 'young guys?' Nay, says Gary, the real question is the reverse!
Thrust!
...Parry!
Point!
...Counterpoint!
"Mirror mirror on the wall, who is the fairest of them all?"
Clearly, there are more really good players today than ever before. But...are there any more great players? I think not. These precious few -- The Chosen Ones -- stand out in every generation. And this handful would stand out in any generation.
"All you can ask of anyone," said Bobby Jones, "is that they beat the fellows who were around when they were around."
I came across this clip of Ted Kroll(a player from the 40's I believe)and I was particularly impressed with his hand action...just a great swing...hope you enjoy. http://www.megspace.com/sports/moeto...roll_clip.html
I came across this clip of Ted Kroll(a player from the 40's I believe)and I was particularly impressed with his hand action...just a great swing...hope you enjoy. http://www.megspace.com/sports/moeto...roll_clip.html
Awesome!!! That is one beautiful motion. Just looking at that for about an hour should do something good for your motion. Thanks dude! Very nice contribution on your first post.
played golf yesterday with Yodasluke and Bagger Lance, your ears must've been burning, they had great things to say about you...my dad(known here as Augusta Brad) and I had a half day lesson with the YODA himself this past Saturday and we have caught the fever!!! We were in a small 3 sided tin hut - pouring down rain, about 29 degrees outside and life could not have been better. Bar none, the best golf lesson, ever! Can't wait to keep on truckin...
played golf yesterday with Yodasluke and Bagger Lance, your ears must've been burning, they had great things to say about you...my dad(known here as Augusta Brad) and I had a half day lesson with the YODA himself this past Saturday and we have caught the fever!!! We were in a small 3 sided tin hut - pouring down rain, about 29 degrees outside and life could not have been better. Bar none, the best golf lesson, ever! Can't wait to keep on truckin...
You keep good company man. I ate mexican at my favorite spot yesterday . . . ears weren't the only thing burning.
My father and I argue about how the old players wouldn't make the cut in the modern game. I agree with Jack; the modern game is a game of power. The short ball players only shine like twice a year on short courses with tight fairways. The majority of golf fans do not want shorter courses, tighter fairways, distance resistant balls, or any other restrictions on length. We love watching the best players bomb it long, and flop it onto the greens. In this new era, golf can -almost- be described as a sport.
This is my 9th year on tour as a caddy. Started with John Riegger and now with Brian Gay, both Yoda students. I would have to agree with most of what Nicklaus was quoted as saying. The tour doesn't play very many "Old School" courses anymore. I think Nicklaus and Snead would still be great players today because of their length. Hogan and Player would not be as dominant, but it all depends on the course. I'd say Hogan would beat Tiger 4 out of 5 times at Harbor Town or Westchester, but Tiger would beat Hogan 5 out of 5 at Boston or Torre Pines. The course set up has dictated the way the game is played today. A player who can carry the ball 280 or more can take most of the trouble out of play and hit short irons if he is in the rough. Pretty standard set up each week, water the fairways and don't water the greens. Hey, people come to see the long ball, lets face it. It doesn't seem to take much brains to be a tour official. It's like I always joke, "I tried to become a tour official, but scored too high on the test, so I became a caddy." Thanks Yoda for helping my player, he's on the right track.
This is my 9th year on tour as a caddy. Started with John Riegger and now with Brian Gay, both Yoda students.
Thanks Yoda for helping my player, he's on the right track.
Welcome aboard, Eddie, and thanks for this first post. Keep'em coming!
Brian and I talked by phone Monday night -- he just in from the Honda and me just in from Sweden -- and he mentioned how well you guys work together. I look forward to meeting you when the PGA TOUR hits Atlanta at the end of the month.
Meanwhile, looks like you go at noon tomorrrow at Bay Hill. That sure beats the 6:45 a.m. first-off at Doral. Good luck!
Hybrid Mode
