Is there is way to determine how much divergence there is between the target line and the Crossline plane of 10-5-E when using different club? It seems as though the farther back in the stance the ball is placed the more Crossline the Delivery line will be.
It's 10:13 do you know where your Right Forearm is?
Originally Posted by johngolf33
Is there is way to determine how much divergence there is between the target line and the Crossline plane of 10-5-E when using different club? It seems as though the farther back in the stance the ball is placed the more Crossline the Delivery line will be.
Oh yeah. Go to Fix. Make sure your Right Forearm is On Plane. Imagine a line PARALLEL to your On Plane Right Forearm on the ground through the ball. There is your Angle of Approach Clubhead Delivery Line approximation. Notice that if you put the ball farther back in your stance, that parallel line is more "out to right field." Also, the Delivery Line is not relative to your STANCE line it is relative to your Right Forearm.
Also, if your using an Arc of Approach procedure, just imagine an Arc between your Plane Line and the line parallel to your right forearm.
To me this huge because you can see the inside out impact required by swinging on an INCLINED PLANE.
Is there is way to determine how much divergence there is between the target line and the Crossline plane of 10-5-E when using different club? It seems as though the farther back in the stance the ball is placed the more Crossline the Delivery line will be.
You are very correct.
Here's the way that I see in the visual of 10-5-E:
We all agree that the ball is moving up plane as you move it back in your stance. Also, the three dimensional path of the clubhead is one that appears to be inscribed on a horizontal plane (your eyes are above plane). So, the ball played back in the stance (up plane) is being struck well before low point. The opposite is true for a driver, as the ball is impacted very close to low point. So, the visual changes dramatically.
Now, take a SW and stand at address. Waggle (arms not hands) the club above the ball. Move the club from the ball to a point opposite the left shoulder. The clubhead should be covering a straight line to 'right field' (impact to low point). But, the same drill done with a 3 iron will have the club covering a very short line from impact to low point and will appear much less crossline.
For me, the feeling of left shoulder's location relative to the ball is the key. I keep the feeling of the club moving 'out' until it gets in-line with the left shoulder. So, 'out' with an up plane ball position is really 'out' and 'out' with a downplane ball position is 'out' a little. Keep the clubhead covering that straight line between impact and low point (a point opposite the left shoulder) and you'll be fine.
Here's the way that I see in the visual of 10-5-E:
We all agree that the ball is moving up plane as you move it back in your stance. Also, the three dimensional path of the clubhead is one that appears to be inscribed on a horizontal plane (your eyes are above plane). So, the ball played back in the stance (up plane) is being struck well before low point. The opposite is true for a driver, as the ball is impacted very close to low point. So, the visual changes dramatically.
Now, take a SW and stand at address. Waggle (arms not hands) the club above the ball. Move the club from the ball to a point opposite the left shoulder. The clubhead should be covering a straight line to 'right field' (impact to low point). But, the same drill done with a 3 iron will have the club covering a very short line from impact to low point and will appear much less crossline.
For me, the feeling of left shoulder's location relative to the ball is the key. I keep the feeling of the club moving 'out' until it gets in-line with the left shoulder. So, 'out' with an up plane ball position is really 'out' and 'out' with a downplane ball position is 'out' a little. Keep the clubhead covering that straight line between impact and low point (a point opposite the left shoulder) and you'll be fine.
Great Post Yodasluke! But that poses a question in my mind. Does the 10-5-E Plane stay constant for each club, and the ball moves up-Plane or down-Plane depending on the club in hand?
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