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Old 04-21-2006, 12:51 AM
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Left flying wedge clarification
I had no problem viewing the video but I had trouble understanding the left arm flying wedge. I get the right arm I think. I haven't seen a visual representation of this but I believe it consists of the grip to forearm relationship forming a wedge shape.

Where or what represents the left arm wedge?

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Old 04-21-2006, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Millrat
I had no problem viewing the video but I had trouble understanding the left arm flying wedge. I get the right arm I think. I haven't seen a visual representation of this but I believe it consists of the grip to forearm relationship forming a wedge shape.

Where or what represents the left arm wedge?

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Both the left and right arm flying wedges represent the relationsip between the forearm and grip (a wedge shape or angle), but that angle or wedge refers to different parts of the forearm for each wedge. Grab a club with your normal left hand grip only. COCK the club up and down and notice the angle between the forearm and shaft. This is the left arm flying wedge.

Next, grab the club with only the right hand grip as Yoda demonstrates in the video (i.e. right forearm aligned with the clubshaft with the shaft in the palm of the right hand). Now BEND the right wrist back and forth and notice the angle between the club and the "underbelly" of the right forearm. This is the right forearm flying wedge.

Left wrist cocks but doesn't bend. Right wrist bends, but doesn't cock.

As a side note, I recently took another lesson from Yoda and I completely confused what cocking the left wrist on the followthrough looks (and feels) like. So much winter focus on chips and pitches gave me a solid flat left wrist through impact that refused to swivel on the followthrough. It took me a while to figure it out and begin to execute it, but reviewing the relationship of the flying wedges throughout the swing after the lesson really make things gel.

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Old 04-21-2006, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DukeNasty
Both the left and right arm flying wedges represent the relationsip between the forearm and grip (a wedge shape or angle), but that angle or wedge refers to different parts of the forearm for each wedge. Grab a club with your normal left hand grip only. COCK the club up and down and notice the angle between the forearm and shaft. This is the left arm flying wedge.

Next, grab the club with only the right hand grip as Yoda demonstrates in the video (i.e. right forearm aligned with the clubshaft with the shaft in the palm of the right hand). Now BEND the right wrist back and forth and notice the angle between the club and the "underbelly" of the right forearm. This is the right forearm flying wedge.

Left wrist cocks but doesn't bend. Right wrist bends, but doesn't cock.

As a side note, I recently took another lesson from Yoda and I completely confused what cocking the left wrist on the followthrough looks (and feels) like. So much winter focus on chips and pitches gave me a solid flat left wrist through impact that refused to swivel on the followthrough. It took me a while to figure it out and begin to execute it, but reviewing the relationship of the flying wedges throughout the swing after the lesson really make things gel.

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I am confused about the following:

When the left wrist cocks (moves up & down), how is it physically possible for the right wrist not to move up and down as well?

I just tried this. I placed both hands on a grip and cocked my lift wrist up and down. The right wrist also has to cock. I don't understand how the right wrist can't cock when the left is cocking.
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The bending righ tarm cocks the left wrist. To see it, grab your left thumb, keep your left arm straight and your right wrist level, then bend your right arm. Your left wrist must cock or you won't be able to bend your right arm much, if at all.
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Originally Posted by bambam
The bending righ tarm cocks the left wrist. To see it, grab your left thumb, keep your left arm straight and your right wrist level, then bend your right arm. Your left wrist must cock or you won't be able to bend your right arm much, if at all.
I guess my point is that when you cock the left wrist (move it up and down), the right wrist must also cock (move up and down).

When you bend the right wriste (move side to side), the left wrist must also move side to side.

If both hands are on the club, I do not see how it is physically possible to not cock the right wrist, and not bend the left one.
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Old 04-21-2006, 01:18 PM
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I guess my point is that when you cock the left wrist (move it up and down), the right wrist must also cock (move up and down).

When you bend the right wriste (move side to side), the left wrist must also move side to side.

If both hands are on the club, I do not see how it is physically possible to not cock the right wrist, and not bend the left one.
Try splitting your hands on the grip. Keep the Right Wrist Level and bend your Right Elbow. Your Left Wrist will Cock and your Right Wrist will remain Level if you allow it to.

The Right Elbow Cocks the Left Wrist. Now just slide your hands closer together and do the same.

This is a KEY G.O.L.F. alignment that is the Right Forearm Flying Wedge and its LEVEL Right Wrist that DOES NOT COCK.
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Try splitting your hands on the grip. Keep the Right Wrist Level and bend your Right Elbow. Your Left Wrist will Cock and your Right Wrist will remain Level if you allow it to.

The Right Elbow Cocks the Left Wrist. Now just slide your hands closer together and do the same.

This is a KEY G.O.L.F. alignment that is the Right Forearm Flying Wedge and its LEVEL Right Wrist that DOES NOT COCK.
I do not see how it is physcially possible to have both hands on the grip, cock your left wrist, and not have an up and down movement in your right wrist as well.

I am holding both hands out in front of me in a simulated grip on a golf club. I am cocking my left wrist up and down. Because the hands are connected, the right wrist must also move up and down.

I would like to see a video that shows this concept to me. I do not believe it is physically possible to do what you are saying. Ig the left wrist moves up and down... it seems the right wrist must follow.
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Fog clearing,
Originally Posted by DukeNasty
Both the left and right arm flying wedges represent the relationsip between the forearm and grip (a wedge shape or angle), but that angle or wedge refers to different parts of the forearm for each wedge. Grab a club with your normal left hand grip only. COCK the club up and down and notice the angle between the forearm and shaft. This is the left arm flying wedge.

Next, grab the club with only the right hand grip as Yoda demonstrates in the video (i.e. right forearm aligned with the clubshaft with the shaft in the palm of the right hand). Now BEND the right wrist back and forth and notice the angle between the club and the "underbelly" of the right forearm. This is the right forearm flying wedge.

Left wrist cocks but doesn't bend. Right wrist bends, but doesn't cock.



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Thanks, the fog is clearing but still a bit of haze. Why the reference to wedges-if a wedge is a static shape but the machine wedges are dynamic? It the intent to maintain one or both wedges?

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Flying Wedges -- Static or Dynamic?
Originally Posted by Millrat
Thanks, the fog is clearing but still a bit of haze. Why the reference to wedges-if a wedge is a static shape but the machine wedges are dynamic? It the intent to maintain one or both wedges?

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It's not the size of the Wedges that matter. For example, by changing the amount of Left Wrist Cock I can change the size of my Left Arm Flying Wedge. Or by adjusting my Right Wrist Bend, I change the size of my Right Forearm Flying Wedge.
The important thing is that the plane of the Flying Wedges remained undisturbed. Otherwise, you get some bent-looking Wedges. For example, if I Bend (4-A-2) my Left Wrist, that will deform my Left Arm Flying Wedge, so it's bad.
The Cocking motion of my Left Wrist is on a vertical plane, but the Bending motion is on a horizontal plane.
The Right Forearm Flying Wedge is on a horizontal plane. So if I make any Vertical motion (Cocking or Uncocking) with my Right Wrist, this will conflict with the plane of my Fight Forearm Flying Wedge.
As you can see, the planes of the two wedges are perpendicular or 90 degrees to each other. And as long as the Left Wrist remain flat, and the Right Wrist remain Level (4-B-1), the Wedges will still have this all-important 90 degree relationship with each other. This is true even if you Cock or Uncock your Left Wrist (keeping the Right Wrist Level, obviously) since this only changes the size of Wedge, but the vertical plane of the Left Arm Flying Wedge remains exactly the same.

Edit: I did a new thread here, and you may find the photos helpful. http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...4104#post24104
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Old 04-22-2006, 06:26 PM
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Definitely dynamic,,,
That answers the questions I had. The wedges are dynamic in their respective planes. Your pictures in the new thread are great, I have a question re: pic 2 that I'll post there.

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