Perhaps a 4 barrel hitter needs to load that way?
Start down is the same as swinging.
Isn't punch or pitch elbow position defined at the release point?
Bagger
Nice one Bagger! How come I didn't think of that . I like that answer. Looking at the "Hitters Row" video of Ted in the Gallery, it looks like his hands are Turned to the Plane at Release Point (suggesting Standard Wrist Action which goes hand in hand with a Pitch Basic Elbow as Annikan said).
I believe you can't get the amount of delayed release in Ted's swing without doing the above. If he was really Drive Loading, it would look more like 10-19-A #1 (note the photo is with Zero Wrist Action, so in reality there would be a little more Wristcock).
Nice one Bagger! How come I didn't think of that . I like that answer. Looking at the "Hitters Row" video of Ted in the Gallery, it looks like his hands are Turned to the Plane at Release Point (suggesting Standard Wrist Action which goes hand in hand with a Pitch Basic Elbow as Annikan said).
I believe you can't get the amount of delayed release in Ted's swing without doing the above. If he was really Drive Loading, it would look more like 10-19-A #1 (note the photo is with Zero Wrist Action, so in reality there would be a little more Wristcock).
Could Ted be a Four Barrel Swinger?
Awwww hell naw!!!! No you didn't.
Teddy Ballgame . . . Please set the record straight . . . You demonstrated to me how the 10-5-E plane line can make you LOOK LIKE you got Pitch in your Punch. But it's still Punch. Perspective . . .
There are some on other sites that have made the same statement. Trust that I know yours is in jest, but they think they know what they're spewing is fact. I won't mention names to protect the innocent, but here's the 411 from Mr. Kelly himself.
Homer on 4 barrel swinging:
"there's no point in 4 barrel swinging"
"there's no real advantage"
"if you try to exceed momentum transfer, it will resist"
Those that think they are 4 barrel swinging, really don't know hitting.
Hitting is an all out push with the right arm that drives the ball to the earths core. It's a shotputter effort, a one handed pushup, a hard steady press of a shovel into soft earth with just the right arm. The only thing that stops the driving right arm is that you will dislocate the left arm from it's shoulder socket at both arms straight if you don't stop driving. OK I'm being a bit exuberant, but the point is there is a significant effort and centrifigal force just doesn't stand a chance.
Those that think they are 4 barrel swinging, really don't know hitting.
Hitting is an all out push with the right arm that drives the ball to the earths core. It's a shotputter effort, a one handed pushup, a hard steady press of a shovel into soft earth with just the right arm. The only thing that stops the driving right arm is that you will dislocate the left arm from it's shoulder socket at both arms straight if you don't stop driving. OK I'm being a bit exuberant, but the point is there is a significant effort and centrifigal force just doesn't stand a chance.
Bagger
The guy on GEA said I could pull and push at the same time (the only thing that Homer said couldn't happen). He said Swinging and Hitting were the same thing. It was just someone's perspective that made the feelings different. I think he needed to do some more !
Hey Teddy ...why did my right elbow hurt like he77?..Oh yeah let's not do that again.....
Last paragraph of 7-19, "Right Arm Swing". My humble opinion is that the Hitting instruction that you were given was a bad idea. It got the patterns crossed. I would never have changed you to Hitting. Swinging is in your genes. You're an awesome Swinger, so why change? As much as I'd like for someone to Hit, I know better than changing someone with so many Swinging tendencies.
I love your pattern, and I think it resembles the awesome footage that you showed me from Mac's prime.
My advice to you: DON'T HIT! DON'T SWING WITH THE RIGHT ARM! SWING!
Last paragraph of 7-19, "Right Arm Swing". My humble opinion is that the Hitting instruction that you were given was a bad idea. It got the patterns crossed. I would never have changed you to Hitting. Swinging is in your genes. You're an awesome Swinger, so why change? As much as I'd like for someone to Hit, I know better than changing someone with so many Swinging tendencies.
I love your pattern, and I think it resembles the awesome footage that you showed me from Mac's prime.
My advice to you: DON'T HIT! DON'T SWING WITH THE RIGHT ARM! SWING!
Ted,
How do you explain the last two paragraphs of Tomasello's July 1991 interview...the master of swinging with the right arm.
GI: What happens to the shots of a player who executes these moves?
Tomasello: The player will immediately hit the ball higher and straighter, and substantially longer. The flight pattern will be dead straight to its apex, with the ball falling a touch left or drawing fractionally as it decends.
GI: How long before a student makes significant improvement?
Tomasello: I can give you documented examples of golfers with no previous record of success who started winning tournaments immediately (on the pro tours Sally Little and Jodie Mudd, I'm sure there are more). But the learning is never-ending. The amount of time and dedication the golfer puts in determines how far he or she can go.
How about Jodie Mudd's comments: "I started working with Tom Tomasello on The Golfing Machine in March 1984. At the time I was in danger of losing my tour card. I finished the year qualifying in 15 of the last 17 events and climbed from 250 to 35 on the money list".
For the record, Tomasello was teaching the swing from July 1991 Golf Illustrated before he went to Australia in 1989. I have Tommy teaching that swing in a 1988 video. Some seem to believe that Croker influenced the swing that Tom talks about in the GI interview.
It's funny, in the Letter series videos, Tomasello says the keys to the golf swing are the right forearm and the right hand.
As a student of Tommy's, I can tell you that Tom used the checklist from 12-3-0 and 12-5-1/2/3 as the basis for his teaching. Tom didn't deviate from TGM.
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 07-25-2006 at 11:05 PM.
First, we use the same shoe company. That's where the similarities end. It's Els if you didn't recognize the legs.
Loading and the #3 pressure point:
Hitter has a Fixed Lag Pressure Point (10-11-0-3), and Swingers have a Rotating Lag Pressure Point.
I think you can clearly see in the picture that Els is Loading the top of the shaft, as the entire shaft is laying on the knuckle. And, I'm Loading the back of the shaft, as the shaft and left arm look to be laying in the first joint. He takes a 5 Iron to End, and I'm taking a Driver to Top.
I've drawn the arrow to ask, where would I feel the Load?
Nice artwork Nuke...Loading action.....Resisting versus throwing it on to the pressure point??????..Directly opposed to the on-plane loading action.......NICE!!!! Loading Action...
. I like that answer. Looking at the "Hitters Row" video of Ted in the Gallery, it looks like his hands are Turned to the Plane at Release Point (suggesting Standard Wrist Action which goes hand in hand with a Pitch Basic Elbow as Annikan said).
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It's Els if you didn't recognize the legs.
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