Disagree - does anyone believe the downswing is a simple pivot around the spine? Isn't this necessary for your argument to hold?
Chris
This is a power package issue and you if try to draw an onplane right shoulder in 3d with the primary lever assembly being inline at followthrough, you'll see exactly what I mean.
This is a power package issue and you if try to draw an onplane right shoulder in 3d with the primary lever assembly being inline at followthrough, you'll see exactly what I mean.
I'm still unconvinced...
Say you did keep the right shoulder onplane to followthrough, and the primary lever assembly ended up inline, in what way would you be off plane (e.tg. over/under etc), or where would the left shoulder be?
Say you did keep the right shoulder onplane to followthrough, and the primary lever assembly ended up inline, in what way would you be off plane (e.tg. over/under etc), or where would the left shoulder be?
Chris
You could draw that one picture in a position - but just tell me how your going to get there. If the right and left shoulder are on a plane any line between that point is going to be onplane too. So if you use a point between the shoulders center for simplicity - that will be onplane too(not quite true but close enough for our purposes).
Now if the stationary point stays onplane - the right shoulder stays onplane - how can the left shoulder leave that plane. Now try to visualise the shoulder motions and ask yourself, how can you have a top of the backstroke where this could happen....it can't....
You could draw that one picture in a position - but just tell me how your going to get there. If the right and left shoulder are on a plane any line between that point is going to be onplane too. So if you use a point between the shoulders center for simplicity - that will be onplane too(not quite true but close enough for our purposes).
Now if the stationary point stays onplane - the right shoulder stays onplane - how can the left shoulder leave that plane. Now try to visualise the shoulder motions and ask yourself, how can you have a top of the backstroke where this could happen....it can't....
Independent movement of the shoulders? They are not a single T-bar. In fact this independent movement need not even occur during the downswin. If both shoulders are forward at the top then they curve forward from the spine. I agree any point between the shoulders would need to be on plane, just not that the spine would need to be between the shoulders - in a linear fashion that is!
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I may be missing the point but it looks like both shoulders of the stickman (in both examples) are on plane through to the end of impact. Seems ideal to me.
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