I may be missing the point but it looks like both shoulders of the stickman (in both examples) are on plane through to the end of impact. Seems ideal to me.
The left shoulder is not onplane for the entire downstroke till the point of where the left arm is inline and the left wrist assumes its uncocked state at followthrough which is by definition both arms straight. The right shoulder is onplane to just before impact where it then must depart the inclined plane.
Both shoulders are definately not onplane...at any point of the golf stroke...
The left shoulder is not onplane for the entire downstroke till the point of where the left arm is inline and the left wrist assumes its uncocked state at followthrough which is by definition both arms straight. The right shoulder is onplane to just before impact where it then must depart the inclined plane.
Both shoulders are definately not onplane...at any point of the golf stroke...
Got cha. I'm sorry Matthew I really didn't say what I meant in that post. I meant to say that the left and right shoulders look as if they are on the same plane at impact.
Got cha. I'm sorry Matthew I really didn't say what I meant in that post. I meant to say that the left and right shoulders look as if they are on the same plane at impact.
Thanks
Thats cool
If you observe Hunters stickman drawing at low point here - you can see that they are on a parallel angle as the plane yet still above the plane. This parallel above the plane is a reasonable approximation at this point for the dimensions of this stickman diagram (and in real life the center I think would be further above plane).. because the right shoulder and the left are in the transition of swapping over as to say...
Note that again the shoulder flexability will be stretched by extensor action towards the plane line - and not being stretched directly backwards. As an analogy, if those shoulders where a bow and the arms the string - the shoulders would not be pulled backwards (or forwards ...lol) so that they would touch the inclined plane....
If you observe Hunters stickman drawing at low point here - you can see that they are on a parallel angle as the plane yet still above the plane. This parallel above the plane is a reasonable approximation at this point for the dimensions of this stickman diagram.... because the right shoulder and the left are in the transition of swapping over as to say...
Note that again the shoulder flexability will be stretched by extensor action towards the plane line - and not being stretched directly backwards. As an analogy, if those shoulders where a bow and the arms the string - the shoulders would not be pulled backwards so that they would touch the inclined plane....
Pretty awesome,dude..clearing it up! thanks.
Just a quickie. How would a really good horizontal hinge action effect the shoulders after this paralell to the plane moment?
Just a quickie. How would a really good horizontal hinge action effect the shoulders after this paralell to the plane moment?
No problem
Hinge action is something completely seperate.
Ask the same questions. Does hinge action stop the left arm becoming inline at followthrough... it doesn't. Does hinge action stop the pivot center from being above the plane... it doesn't. Does hinge action stop extensor action pulling the shoulder flexability towards the plane line...it doesn't...
So regardless what Hinge action you employ it makes no difference to the fact that the left shoulder is onplane at followthrough and not the right shoulder.
I'll take the bait for the first part of your question.
Flat Left Wrist from Start Up to Follow Through
Right Forearm and Clubshaft Tracing the Straight Plane Line during Release
The perpendicular relationship of the Flying Wedges: the Flat Left Wrist and Level Right Wrist
An "On Plane" Right Shoulder from Start Down to Follow Through to give the right amount of Axis Tilt and Hip Slide
All Pivot Components moving parallel to your selected Delivery Line (usually the Plane Line) at Start Down
A fixed Pivot Center
A 10-2-B Grip with no wobble in Clubshaft attachment during the entire motion
Originally Posted by Peter Croker
Good answer EdZ!
Also I believe with an "Uncompensated swing" the alignments allow for maximum efficiency of power applied going into the ball plus the least amount of stress on the body parts.
Here are six alignments within the "Address" that I have found allow for maximum use of centrifugal force and least need for timing to hit the ball to the target.
1.The Left Wrist to the Club Shaft.
2.The left Wrist to the clubface.
3.The Club Shaft to the body center of gravity.
4.The Elbows to the hips.
5.The Spine to the ground.
6.The Clubface and Body to the ball’s target.
With these alignments in place and with a correct "pushing" action on the "pressure points" in the hands, all other alignments that are involved in the "Uncompensated Swing" are possible'
Hope this helps.
Kind regards,
Peter Croker
Thank you tongzilla and Peter Croker for your valueable answer.
I really want to hear the answer from Mathew , ChrstNZ , 12 piece bucket and others too.
__________________ "Solid powerful impact always be there at the second loop on the way down along the K& line of educated hands!?"
Ask the same questions. Does hinge action stop the left arm becoming inline at followthrough... it doesn't. Does hinge action stop the pivot center from being above the plane... it doesn't. Does hinge action stop extensor action pulling the shoulder flexability towards the plane line...it doesn't...
So regardless what Hinge action you employ it makes no difference to the fact that the left shoulder is onplane at followthrough and not the right shoulder.
That's a Big 10-4 on that Able Baker! Thanks again!
I'm sorry Matthew I really didn't say what I meant in that post. I meant to say that the left and right shoulders look as if they are on the same plane at impact.
...lol) so that they would touch the inclined plane....
"Solid powerful impact always be there at the second loop on the way down along the K& line of educated hands!?"
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