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View Poll Results: Do you teach/prefer the Base of the Neck Pivot Center OR the Head Pivot Center?
Base of the neck 88 64.71%
Head 24 17.65%
It doesn't matter, the Golf Stroke doesn't need a Pivot Center 2 1.47%
They are both the same because the Head includes the Base of the Neck 22 16.18%
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Old 08-26-2006, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket

9-1 ZONE 1 . . . The Pivot involves twisting the body and shifting the weight during the Stroke so as to maintain balance, a motionless head and any required tilt of the torso.
Thanks, Bucket. The references you have isolated in your past two posts prove the importance Homer Kelley accorded the Stationary Head.

The selected quote above is one of my favorites:

"The Pivot involves twisting the body..."

One of the reasons Golfers fail to execute a Centered Pivot is because it is far easier to Slide than to Twist. Most Golfers are too lazy to Twist. It takes work.

And so they Slide instead.

"[Swaying] is usually an attempt to replace the Pivot in working toward a Turn and a Weight Shift." -- Homer Kelley
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Old 08-27-2006, 01:44 AM
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I guess...
I reviewed a few videos I got, namely, Golf my way by Jack Nicklaus video; How to build a Classic Swing by Ernie Els and Ben Hogan DVD by Jim Mclean.

I heard so many time “Head still…..”
See Els's head in the capture top down view:-
http://bb4.babyhome.com.tw/UPLOAD6/9...4634.37637.jpg

On the other hand, the golf swing in the Hogan at older age video really moved "a lot" to the right but when i put it on V1 solfware, he definely returned his head to near address position through impact with quite active lower body movement.

Is flexibility an issue?

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Old 08-27-2006, 08:12 AM
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Great Post 12 Piece Bucket. May I add that 'word for word' these quotes can be found dating back to the First Edition (except the definitions which were added to later Editions).
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Old 08-27-2006, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
The selected quote above is one of my favorites:

"The Pivot involves twisting the body..."

One of the reasons Golfers fail to execute a Centered Pivot is because it is far easier to Slide than to Twist. Most Golfers are too lazy to Twist. It takes work.

And so they Slide instead.
Are they too lazy to twist tho? Or are they untrained? I can't pivot properly left handed no matter how much effort I put into it. (even on lazy days)

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"[Swaying] is usually an attempt to replace the Pivot in working toward a Turn and a Weight Shift." -- Homer Kelley
I agree for beginners sometimes....but what about tour players who sway a bit? These guys can pivot.

So is it choice? or coincidence? or is it taught? or is it natural?
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Are they too lazy to twist tho? Or are they untrained? I can't pivot properly left handed no matter how much effort I put into it. (even on lazy days)
I absolutely agree that most golfers fail to Pivot properly because they are either untrained or improperly trained.
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The selected quote above is one of my favorites:

"The Pivot involves twisting the body..."

One of the reasons Golfers fail to execute a Centered Pivot is because it is far easier to Slide than to Twist. Most Golfers are too lazy to Twist. It takes work.

And so they Slide instead.
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Originally Posted by okie View Post
The selected quote above is one of my favorites:

"The Pivot involves twisting the body..."

One of the reasons Golfers fail to execute a Centered Pivot is because it is far easier to Slide than to Twist. Most Golfers are too lazy to Twist. It takes work.

And so they Slide instead.
Okie - dead right IMO!!

Percy Boomer said something like the "pivot is a turn and then a TWIST"...turn on the backstroke and a twist on the downswing.... there is a reason why the put spikes in the shoes.... when you twist...you need them...'cos we really use planet earth...

I spent too many years sliding...
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Old 04-08-2008, 07:39 PM
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Zone 1...check!
In my case the bob and sway is slight. I would not have spotted it if it were not for V1! Any amount of sway moves you further away from the pure gyroscopic model. When I execute zone 1 correctly my right hip moves directly behind me. It feels almost like a horizontal move…the glute moves straight back. Obviously it is a sharp rotation…but the feel is a stark contrast to the sensation I have had for say…22 years! The weight or the pressure moves to my right heel and I sense pressure in my left big toe. The hip bump is more of a reaction…so I am no longer obsessing about axis tilt! I now have a better grasp of cranking the fly wheel in order to spin the gyroscope. The newest sensation is feeling on top of the ball…a good place from which to go down…down!


PS Using standard knee action has helped me tremendously. I lack sufficient flexibility (these days) to maintain a right knee anchor. I think I have Edz to thank for that one! Thank goodness for definable, workable options!
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