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Tripod Center Vote

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View Poll Results: Do you teach/prefer the Base of the Neck Pivot Center OR the Head Pivot Center?
Base of the neck 88 64.71%
Head 24 17.65%
It doesn't matter, the Golf Stroke doesn't need a Pivot Center 2 1.47%
They are both the same because the Head includes the Base of the Neck 22 16.18%
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Old 08-27-2006, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
Birdie,

With all due respect to your love of The Golfing Machine and your participation on this site -- which, by the way, I appreciate sincerely -- have you bought the book yet?
Oh ya Lynn....I've had the book for more than a year now....it's highlited from front to back. Are there some important resources you think I should read relating to this? (if you're suggesting I've missed some important things)

I mean, I don't know it as well as you....but I know it not bad.

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And regarding Homer Kelley and his consideration of the Head Pivot Center...

Yes, he thought about it.

A lot.

And he specifically referenced it -- Bucket, run your search and tell us how many times -- and deliberately chose it over the 'point-between-the-shoulders' alternative (mentioned once and as just that, a deliberately rejected alternative).
Aha....I may have missed this. I need to check this out.

(I still will decide for myself though)

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Old 08-27-2006, 02:13 PM
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In my opinion, it is counterintuitive to state that there is a sensory advantage to using the head pivot center, and yet still you (and Mr. Kelley) allow the head (and eyes) to rotate.
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Old 08-27-2006, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Smithers

In my opinion, it is counterintuitive to state that there is a sensory advantage to using the head pivot center, and yet still you (and Mr. Kelley) allow the head (and eyes) to rotate.
Well, Mike Finney, my sense of sight and balance, not to mention my hearing, smell and taste -- are all located in my Head. And 'touch' also filters through there on its way to recognition by me. To my mind, that's a pretty good reason to view the Head as Command Central for the senses and as a pretty important resource when striking a Golf Ball.

To tell you the truth, it's a whole lot easier for me to sense my Head than my 'Point-Between-the-Shoulders.' But maybe that's just me.

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Old 08-27-2006, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
Well, Mike Finney,

Ryan Smither, my assistant golf professional, is the one who posted earlier. Just so you have your ducks in a row.
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Old 08-27-2006, 03:36 PM
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Well, Mike Finney, my sense of sight and balance, not to mention my hearing, smell and taste -- are all located in my Head. And 'touch' also filters through there on its way to recognition by me. To my mind, that's a pretty good reason to view the Head as Command Central for the senses and as a pretty important resource when striking a Golf Ball.

To tell you the truth, it's a whole lot easier for me to sense my Head than my 'Point-Between-the-Shoulders.' But maybe that's just me.

So what you're saying is...you smell your way to a steady head?

Thanks for the input.

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Old 08-27-2006, 04:14 PM
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Still or not still..........
The most important thing is to get the student to hit the ball better. If he does it by moving the head - fine. If he does it by having the head stationary - fine. We cannot all have it one way or the other.

Yoda,
in a another thread you say the following:

I strongly endorse Bill Mehlhorn's book.

In August 1990, I met Bobby Shave, the co-author and inspiration behind the book and the guy who recorded the sessions. [The book is basically a transcription of several Q&As with members of the Florida International University golf team in Miami.] Later, I spent time with him hitting shag balls and talkin' golf in an open field near his home in Homestead, Florida. Two years later, Hurricane Andrew destroyed the city, and I lost contact.

The personal history and stories are great -- Hagen, Hogan, Vardon, Sarazen, Diegel, Armour, Picard, Runyan, Bulla, Demaret, Locke, Boros, Jones...they're all there -- and to this day, I use several of his drills in most every Academy class and private lesson. Drill I educates the Pivot with its Weight Transfer. Drill II educates the Arms and Hands in their Body-Related Hinge Action. Drill III educates the Hands as to their Basic Fanning Motion. Drill IV, the Right Forearm Takeaway and return to Impact Fix. With Drill V, you can actually 'see' the Plane. Drills VI-XIII are more of the same, and Plate IX illustrates the golfing Ideal from a down-the-line view -- "the arms swinging up, down and up as the legs rotate the body."

Get the book.

Read it.

Study it.

You'll be glad you did.


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Well, Mehlhorn does not favour a starionary head, and if you use the drills with your students,especially the pivot drill, the head will move!
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Old 08-27-2006, 05:19 PM
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Steady head evidence
Ted Fort's video with water bottle on head goes some way to showing whether it is possible/ advisable/etc

BUT

did any of those white bobbles at titleist performance institute get placed on his head!! there went pretty well everywhere else!!

Any chance of seeing the promised photos please....

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Typing with absolutely stationary head is not mandatory for typing procedure!! if not that bottle of water is going to short out my keyboard!!
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Old 08-27-2006, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Smithers
So what you're saying is...you smell your way to a steady head?

Thanks for the input.


Great...another cart kid with an attitude
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Old 08-27-2006, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Smithers
So what you're saying is...you smell your way to a steady head?

Thanks for the input.

I can't believe you said that Smithers. This is a discussion, not a battle. All opinions are respected. This is an LBG Forum, not the "Dark Side".
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So what you're saying is...you smell your way to a steady head?

Thanks for the input.

That's PATHETIC
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