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Old 09-27-2006, 11:18 AM
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I agree... Nice Post!!!

Some pictures from down-the-line would be nice here... that clearly show these things.

Do you see the Angle Line Delivery Paths as more of a NATURAL or INATE thing... or do you teach this to some?
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Do you believe the Angled Line Delivery Paths are a "NATURAL" thing, and should probably not intentionally be attempted, or manipulated?

Or... is the FEEL of a Straight Line... even when an Angled Line happens?
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Old 09-27-2006, 11:49 AM
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How would use an actual plane as a training tool when there is a plane shift from elbow plane to turned shoulder plane? (10-6a to 10-6b) I have been trying to build a plane similar to the one pictured in a previous post showing Yoda several years earlier.

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Old 09-27-2006, 01:46 PM
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The Adjustable Plane Board
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How would use an actual plane as a training tool when there is a plane shift from elbow plane to turned shoulder plane? (10-6a to 10-6b) I have been trying to build a plane similar to the one pictured in a previous post showing Yoda several years earlier.
If you are going to build a full Plane Board, you need to make it adjustable. Train Start up and early Backstroke on the Elbow Plane, then adjust the Plane Angle to Turned Shoulder.

We did some work like this at my recent Academy in Germany. Some photos were taken of this process, but not by me. I'll see if I can't get the photos and put them up.

Readers who have access to the Explanar training device have it a bit easier. You can set the Explanar to the Turned Shoulder Plane Angle and, with the Clubshaft lying on the circular frame, still enjoy a 'normal' Address position. This arrangement permits the Hands and Clubshaft to begin their journey on the Elbow Plane and gradually make their way without incident to the Turned Shoulder Plane. See the photos of Brian Gay using the Explanar in post #90, Photos #13-15 http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...?t=2383&page=9.
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:13 AM
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If you are going to build a full Plane Board, you need to make it adjustable. Train Start up and early Backstroke on the Elbow Plane, then adjust the Plane Angle to Turned Shoulder.

We did some work like this at my recent Academy in Germany. Some photos were taken of this process, but not by me. I'll see if I can't get the photos and put them up.

Readers who have access to the Explanar training device have it a bit easier. You can set the Explanar to the Turned Shoulder Plane Angle and, with the Clubshaft lying on the circular frame, still enjoy a 'normal' Address position. This arrangement permits the Hands and Clubshaft to begin their journey on the Elbow Plane and gradually make their way without incident to the Turned Shoulder Plane. See the photos of Brian Gay using the Explanar in post #90, Photos #13-15 http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...?t=2383&page=9.
Lynn,

I do have an Explanar in the studio and find that apart from the 12 o'clock position (where the Explanar fins are located), its very hard for the uneducated eye to spot an off-plane shaft.

The weighted roller club may be resting on the circular rails, but it may not be conforming to 1-L-#5, "The clubshaft lies full length on a flat tilted plane."

The best plane board undoubtedly is the one that Homer recommends - a rectangular plane with a circle in the centre - per 7-7, "Always view the Plane as rectangular (with four ninety degree corners)...", which the pictures in the book depict.
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Lynn,

I do have an Explanar in the studio and find that apart from the 12 o'clock position (where the Explanar fins are located), its very hard for the uneducated eye to spot an off-plane shaft.

The weighted roller club may be resting on the circular rails, but it may not be conforming to 1-L-#5, "The clubshaft lies full length on a flat tilted plane."

The best plane board undoubtedly is the one that Homer recommends - a rectangular plane with a circle in the centre - per 7-7, "Always view the Plane as rectangular (with four ninety degree corners)...", which the pictures in the book depict.
Agreed on all points, Justin.

Life is a compromise.

And it is also short (and thus requires a competent Golf Instructor).

So play hard.

And win.

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Old 09-27-2006, 01:33 PM
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Plane Shifts, Delivery Paths And Straight Line Thrust
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Do you believe the Angled Line Delivery Paths are a "NATURAL" thing, and should probably not intentionally be attempted, or manipulated?

Or... is the FEEL of a Straight Line... even when an Angled Line happens?
Starting on the Elbow Plane is a natural movement. As is Shifting to the Turned Shoulder Plane during the Backstroke. In fact, staying on the Elbow Plane produces an extremely Flat Backstroke and is, in my opinion, an unnatural movement.

Regarding "Feel," the Thrust remains a Straight Line effort with all Delivery Paths, i.e., Straight Line, Angled Line and even Circle (6-E-2).
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