Thanks for your reply and clarification. I've seen a very slow-mo clip of Hogan's downswing and he also connects the elbow to the hip and than seems like a pull with his left hand. Very much like what Tomesello describe and taught in the start of the downswing in the Australian series.
However when I try to execute a karate chop to the ground first, it appears that I am getting more of a sweep release type of action, like the CGS swing.
Both works, I guess. But you say I should end up with a snap-release type of action with both procedures. I've got to review the videos again.
Thanks a million for your help.
cheers,
daniel
Daniel - if you are seeing a sweep when using the right hand karate chop move, chances are good that your pivot and/or address position needs some checking. Possible your aiming point is off as well, but less likely IMO.
Hard to say without seeing your motion, but check your right forearm position at fix/right hand grip to make sure you aren't coming in with too high a right forearm. For the pivot, you are likely roundhousing to some degree. Pratice some shots with your right foot drawn back to get the feel for that karate chop coming from the inside without your shoulders opening too early. That will combine well with the 'down and out on the plane' that Tomasello is talking about in letter #2.
Another image that may help is to work on what feels like cross line hip motion - "like kicking a soccer ball" to use Wally Armstrong's image. Take your right hip back over your right heel, diagonally through over your left toes.
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Is a bent left wrist at the top of the back swing detrimental to this pattern? I seem to have more clubhead speed and a tighter swing with a bent left wrist. I've only tried this in the backyard with plastic balls.
Is a bent left wrist at the top of the back swing detrimental to this pattern? I seem to have more clubhead speed and a tighter swing with a bent left wrist. I've only tried this in the backyard with plastic balls.
I have been trying to learn TT's swing, apparently I come to the conclusion that there are three components in the downswing,
(a) a 'pulling the arrow from the quiver' move with the right hand - connects the right elbow to the hip and ensure the right shoulder moves downplane. Obviously, it also reverses the direction of the clubhead;
(b) a karate chop action - as shown in the video series;
(c) a swivel and hit action through the ball - controversial move but I think it helps ensures squaring the clubface.
In TT's Chapter on Power, he showed a move by swinging a stick with his right hand, I dunno if this is right arm swing or not. But what I seem to feel is that if (a) is missing, the power is all gone. So although TT describes the first downswing move as merely connecting the elbow to the hip (move 4 to 5 , I think), it is actually a pulling action with the right hand, move (a). If this first pulling action is gone, so does the power of the right hand swinging action as demostrated by TT.
Am I on the right track? Really appreciate any help to understand TT's methods.
I have been trying to learn TT's swing, apparently I come to the conclusion that there are three components in the downswing,
(a) a 'pulling the arrow from the quiver' move with the right hand - connects the right elbow to the hip and ensure the right shoulder moves downplane. Obviously, it also reverses the direction of the clubhead;
(b) a karate chop action - as shown in the video series;
(c) a swivel and hit action through the ball - controversial move but I think it helps ensures squaring the clubface.
In TT's Chapter on Power, he showed a move by swinging a stick with his right hand, I dunno if this is right arm swing or not. But what I seem to feel is that if (a) is missing, the power is all gone. So although TT describes the first downswing move as merely connecting the elbow to the hip (move 4 to 5 , I think), it is actually a pulling action with the right hand, move (a). If this first pulling action is gone, so does the power of the right hand swinging action as demostrated by TT.
Am I on the right track? Really appreciate any help to understand TT's methods.
cheers,
daniel
As Tomasello said in my three day school the pivot "shuts the door" or what squares the clubface...no controversial move in the swing.
Right forearm/elbow "Whips It" and the hips or specifically the left hip "Zips It". Whip it and Zip it...Left Hip is responding to the action of the right forearm or the Magic of the Right Forearm...Hit some really awesome drives with this swing yesterday...long and straight as Tommy said....yeeee hawwwww.
A excellent drill for getting the feel of the downswing is the extensor drill that Tomasello uses in the Australia video. It's the one where he doesn't use a club....Tommy puts his right hand on his left wrist...do that drill and I guarantee you get the proper feel of the downswing using the right forearm to start the downswing....you will discover the first move is down. Try to go out with the right forearm with this drill and you will instantly feel how you go off plane. This drill is so simplistic yet incredibly valueable.
Do two sets of this drill....the extensor action drill without a club five times and then put a club in your hands and do the drill five times. Do it daily.
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 11-27-2006 at 11:45 PM.
Thanks. Think I am getting the hang of it. So it's "Turn it, Lift it, Whip it and Zip it"..
If I do this pulling action with the right hand, my middle section of the forth right hand finger is a bit sore. I always wonder why Tiger got a bandage on his middle section of his middle right hand finger. Perhaps also due to this pulling action.
I think to complete my swing, i need a good takeaway. It just feels very unnatural at the moment.
I do feel that my pivot is not correct. When we see Tomasello, and I have seen both series many times, he makes it look so simple. And I must say, he does have very good and smooth pivot action.
Another problem I have is shoulder action. At the top of the backswing, is my shoulder level to the ground or is it incline with the left shoulder slightly lower than the right. When I see the Tomasello video, his left seems to be lower, like using the rotated shoulder turn. However, if I start from Impact Fix with a tilt, it seems impossible for me to get to a rotated shoulder turn.
Another image that may help is to work on what feels like cross line hip motion - "like kicking a soccer ball" to use Wally Armstrong's image. Take your right hip back over your right heel, diagonally through over your left toes.
Ed, would that be a hitters hip motion cross-line? or is it still in sync with da swinger?
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