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"Creation of Lag Pressure" by Ted Fort

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Old 11-23-2006, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
OK Dawg . . . This ain't as difficult as it seems at first pass.

All the Angle of Approach is is a line that connects the Point of Impact and the Low Point. All the Arc of Approach is is an ARC that connects the same two points.

Now both of these (the curved line and the straight line) are ON THE PLANE. The Angle of Approach (the Line) extends out to right field. However the Arc of Approach curves back IN after reaching Low Point . . . as a result the procedures are different. The Arc of Approach ain't for the Hitter.

You can actually approximate the Angle of Approach a couple of ways.

1. Go to Fix and get your Right Forearm On-Plane. Imagine a line on the ground running parallel to your on-plane right forearm. There is the approximation of the Angle of Approach Delivery Line.

2. Low Point is opposite your left shoulder. You can determine your impact point at Fix. Now just imagine a line connecting the dots.

HOWEVER . . . Homer Kelley said that the Hitter utilizing the Angle of Approach procedure didn't have to be precise. He found in his experiments and observation that you could have different amounts of "out to right field" and achieve the same result. So you pick how much out to right field works best for YOU and that is YOUR angle of approach.

From the player's vantage point I think Homer Kelley would say that to the player the clubhead will ALWAYS appear to pass out side the Line of Flight (or target line). The flight of the ball is in a VERTICAL plane and the golf club operates on an Inclined Plane . . . so anything positioned back of low point means that the inclined plane will be OUTSIDE of the flight of the ball.

Lay a plate on the table and take a look for yourself . . .

Thanks for clearing it up.... I made a typo when i said "arc of approach purely for hitter"... meant "angle". Depressed at moment... Australia kicking English butt on first day of Ashes...imagine a "world series" that truly involved intercontinental rivalry and you get close to the significance of the current cricket match between England and Australia...

What I was trying to say is that you achieve an "arc of approach" curved clubhead path by straight plane line tracing and vica versa...

Can one use either in hitting or swinging...? this is the bit i am unsure of...? I thought that someone somewhere said that Yoda's hitting looks so similar to his swinging ( and hence different to Teds hitting) because he hits with tracing a straight plane line...? and a square- square set up 10-5-A...

But Ted uses 10-5-E set up and "angle of approach" is purely hitting and ,as you say, precision is less important ...


"Right field" cricket equivalent = "mid off" I think...
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Old 11-23-2006, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by golfbulldog
Can one use either in hitting or swinging...? this is the bit i am unsure of...? I thought that someone somewhere said that Yoda's hitting looks so similar to his swinging ( and hence different to Teds hitting) because he hits with tracing a straight plane line...? and a square- square set up 10-5-A...

But Ted uses 10-5-E set up and "angle of approach" is purely hitting and ,as you say, precision is less important ...
Normally someone choose either hitting or swinging depending on their own set of unique golfing talents and what works best for them. Someone like Lynn Blake, for teaching purposes, needs to be fluent in both hitting and swinging. It would simply be too complicated for him to choose optimum forms of hitting and swinging in this case because too many parts would need to swapped out, every time he switched from one form to the other. So instead of optimizing one science or the other, Yoda chooses parts that work quite well for him regardless of whether he is hitting or swingiing. The only minor problem was that for me, duplicating his downswing waggle, I didn't get the crossline hip movement that I desired. But it is now fixed and all is well.

Most places where you learn golf teach you swinging, period. Here you get to figure out whether you are a hitter or a swinger and then go from there. A huge competitive advantage for the Golf Machine, I say.
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Old 11-23-2006, 11:17 AM
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Normally someone choose either hitting or swinging depending on their own set of unique golfing talents and what works best for them. Someone like Lynn Blake, for teaching purposes, needs to be fluent in both hitting and swinging. It would simply be too complicated for him to choose optimum forms of hitting and swinging in this case because too many parts would need to swapped out, every time he switched from one form to the other. So instead of optimizing one science or the other, Yoda chooses parts that work quite well for him regardless of whether he is hitting or swingiing. The only minor problem was that for me, duplicating his downswing waggle, I didn't get the crossline hip movement that I desired. But it is now fixed and all is well.

Most places where you learn golf teach you swinging, period. Here you get to figure out whether you are a hitter or a swinger and then go from there. A huge competitive advantage for the Golf Machine, I say.
...and a sustainable one I might add.
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Old 11-23-2006, 03:01 PM
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Thank you, thank you, Mr. Ted Fort for providing the blueprint for numerous swing improvements in this hitter's arsenal.

Managed a small BUCKET of balls with my new crossline swing. Definitely a dramatic improvement on what I was doing previously. I tried to think about why crossline felt and worked better for me. While 30 balls is certainly just a small sampling, here is my guess as to what is improved.

In swinging, the direction of the swing is set far earlier in the sequence, so the fact that one's hips are opening early is of small consequence. In hitting, the position of your hips at the point of contract matters more. So my theory is that the cross line hip swing provides insurance for hitters to prevent an early hip opening before the tricep takes over, causing one to hit the ball on the wrong line.

How did I do BUCKET?
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Old 11-23-2006, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rvwink
Thank you, thank you, Mr. Ted Fort for providing the blueprint for numerous swing improvements in this hitter's arsenal.

Managed a small BUCKET of balls with my new crossline swing. Definitely a dramatic improvement on what I was doing previously. I tried to think about why crossline felt and worked better for me. While 30 balls is certainly just a small sampling, here is my guess as to what is improved.

In swinging, the direction of the swing is set far earlier in the sequence, so the fact that one's hips are opening early is of small consequence. In hitting, the position of your hips at the point of contract matters more. So my theory is that the cross line hip swing provides insurance for hitters to prevent an early hip opening before the tricep takes over, causing one to hit the ball on the wrong line.

How did I do BUCKET?
I'd say you got it . . . all components must adhere to the selected delivery line . . . and if you select the cross-line angle of approach as your delivery line . . . then you certainly don't want your hips "opening" too quickly I'd say because you'd end up bending your plane line left.

I'd say Ted would certainly be the expert in this here area . .. but in my humble opinion your thesis holds water.

I think you kinda just want to set things up so you can drive off your right shoulder as a back stop . . . like a shot putter. Homer Kelley said that the pivot is just the sack you put the components in.
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