"Extensor Action gives an indispensable control to all Strokes". Homer Kelley 6-B-1-D.
DG
It gives structure.
"This stretches but does not move the Left Arm and produces a structural rigidity that is a strong deterrent to collapse under the stress of Acceleration and Impact." Homer Kelley per 6-B-1-D (my old screen name).
TT give the impression that the right arm piston action is Extension Action or at the very least failed to seperate the two forces- a in-line pull (stretch) on the left arm and the right arm push (drive) on the left arm. Two different things.
I have watched the series of clips several times. A fine introduction to TGM.
For introductions.....After studying with Tommy in 1984. Jodie Mudd goes from 250 to 35 the on PGA tour money list for that year. And amateurs go from double digit handicaps to scratch in months. Please, more introductions like that...
For _hits and giggles, someone please explain away the first sentence of 6-B-1-D.
DG
I'm sure Jodie was very talented and swung his own club for each shot.
hits and giggles? btw- I thought you stopped replying to my questions.
If the right arm was to release itself from the left arm, it would straighten. That is because it pulls linear doesn't push in an arc.
Even on the old forums DG (RR), it was always about YOU and TOM. In these tapes, and I like them- the tapes that is- Tom could have explained a few things better.
I'm sure students hit the ball better- its TGM, right? Or is it TTGM?
If someone could supply a better take on TGM, I would listen and probably promote it. Sorry, it hasn't happened ....I'll stick with studying what Tomasello taught, the GSED who worked with Homer up until his passing.
DG
Will I did answered your question about the first sentence. Unlike you, I see a lot of good in TT. I don't place him on MT Olympus though. Not healthy. We all have benefited from the tapes and you should be thanked, but there is no last word in the journey. You need to stand up and take fleet. There are many to learn from and walk alongside.
To resort to personal attacks, this stuff must be that good to be getting this kind of attention. Geeezzzz, I'll take back my earlier recommendation to just watch videos 1,2 and 5 and 2 from the letter series to.......watch them all. Hey, see what the fuss is all about. While you're at it, I recommend writing down all of the drills then practice them on a regular basis, especially the extensor action drill.
Cheers to great golf in 2007....now is the time to get prepared.
DG
Yes, I was hoping for an answer from someone else because you see every question about TT instruction as being sacrilegious. I have seen all the chapters many many times- that is why I ask questions. I don't think telling people to watch and accept them as gospel is much of an answer. I understand extensor action. I do think TT needed to add that it doesn't move the left arm that it pulls outward. Is this the Geeeezzzzzz personal attack? Now maybe I am wrong. Maybe an outward strech can move the right arm. Homer says no, but it is obvious that the right arm is doing both. So I ask.
I have always said that TT did a bang up job with the tape- I enjoy them. I do think you block any question with the standard "watch the tapes and do these drills." TT leaves some questions to be asked. I do not think he would mind them- why you? TT is only one of many outstanding AIs that worked with Homer. I like to learn from all of them and ask them questions. Devotion is a fine but Blind devotion is just that- blind.
Yes, I was hoping for an answer from someone else because you see every question about TT instruction as being sacrilegious. I have seen all the chapters many many times- that is why I ask questions. I don't think telling people to watch and accept them as gospel is much of an answer. I understand extensor action. I do think TT needed to add that it doesn't move the left arm that it pulls outward. Is this the Geeeezzzzzz personal attack? Now maybe I am wrong. Maybe an outward strech can move the right arm. Homer says no, but it is obvious that the right arm is doing both. So I ask.
I have always said that TT did a bang up job with the tape- I enjoy them. I do think you block any question with the standard "watch the tapes and do these drills." TT leaves some questions to be asked. I do not think he would mind them- why you? TT is only one of many outstanding AIs that worked with Homer. I like to learn from all of them and ask them questions. Devotion is a fine but Blind devotion is just that- blind.
I'll take a try. Mark Evershed is a very good instructor working in Canada. TGM trained. Gives a lot of credit to Homer. Also spent a lot of time with Moe Norman. In 1985 he went to South Carolina and spent a lot of time with Tommy Tomasello. He actually gives TT humongous credit for turning his game and his teaching around.
Evershed talks a lot about the golf swing as a right sided swing (Those are mostly my words. I'm trying to paraphrase what I remember). He talks a lot about extensor action. He says the right hand-arm will always try to swing on-plane. If you try to swing by pulling the left arm you will more often than not swing straight down the target line, OFF-PLANE. He also talks about the 4accumulators. Evershed teaches a 4 barrel swinging procedure.
So, if we want to try to get a window to Tomasello, maybe we should look to Evershed.
I'll take a try. Mark Evershed is a very good instructor working in Canada. TGM trained. Gives a lot of credit to Homer. Also spent a lot of time with Moe Norman. In 1985 he went to South Carolina and spent a lot of time with Tommy Tomasello. He actually gives TT humongous credit for turning his game and his teaching around.
Evershed talks a lot about the golf swing as a right sided swing (Those are mostly my words. I'm trying to paraphrase what I remember). He talks a lot about extensor action. He says the right hand-arm will always try to swing on-plane. If you try to swing by pulling the left arm you will more often than not swing straight down the target line, OFF-PLANE. He also talks about the 4accumulators. Evershed teaches a 4 barrel swinging procedure.
So, if we want to try to get a window to Tomasello, maybe we should look to Evershed.
I have known Evershed for many years and have seen his web site, both the old and new versions. I know he is a big time right wrist bend guy. I think he tries to HH (?) a Hit stroke but without flattening the right wrist. He comes from inside square to inside.
I know ME and TT very well. What DG doesn't understand is that many of us have watch the tapes several times. I have watch them MANY MANY times, but watching them until they sound like some Gregorian Chant, is not an answer or even a comment.
I have no problem with TT. Any kind of reply that doesn't include watch the tapes and do the drills is all I wanted but no longer need. I know the answer.
Tomasello taught two very important concepts.....Magic of the Right Forearm and Whipcracking (see 9-2)...tonight, I just picked up on the whipcracking concept with the right forearm off of my number 2 cassette tape from my three day school. If fact, on the cassette tape Tommy says we watched his video on Whipcracking, I vaguely remember watching the video....but think about cracking a whip.....do you crack a whip with your body or do you use your dominant arm.... in this case your right arm and your body responds.
Yes, Evershed is a good resource for additional information on Tomasello's teaching and TGM. In fact, the term "Quiet Body" in Mark's book the Golf Solution really helped me to understand how the body responds to the right forearm. After reading Mark's book and re-listening to my three day school tapes there are plenty of comments from Tomasello about how the body responds to the action of the right forearm (Tommy just didn't phrase it as "Quiet Body"). So it's consistent with Mark's book or better said....Mark's book is consistent with Tommy and Homer.
Three top PGA tour players are swinging like this....Ernie Els, Retief Goosen, Davis Love III.
Crack the Whip.
DG
From Evershed:
The golf swing motion is made up of three separate units;
The Quiet Body
The On-Plane Arms
The Educated Hands
Be aware that when swinging your arms left (on-plane) what you get for free;
Leg drive.
A right shoulder that travels under their left.
Your head will stay down.
Your weight will get through the ball.
The club face will get squared.
The ball will fly straight.
Geeezzzz, I'll take back my earlier recommendation to just watch videos 1,2 and 5 and 2 from the letter series to.......watch them all. Hey, see what the fuss is all about. While you're at it, I recommend writing down all of the drills then practice them on a regular basis, especially the extensor action drill. 
Hybrid Mode
