I think Hitters feel the Lag Pressure in #3 much stronger than Swingers. As a result of the Hand Acceleration requirements I think the feels are different. The Swinger reaches his maximum hand speed MUCH sooner than the Hitter via the Spinning of the Fly Wheel the Club and the Hands are SLUNG into orbit. Any attempt to further accelerate via Right Arm Thrust conflicts with CF. According to Homer CF wants to travel at a certain speed adding acceleration is conflicting with CF and possibly overriding it. As a result I think your hands must be much more fine tuned to the Lag Pressure with Swinging as compared to Hitting. With Hitting you start slow and it is IMPERATIVE that the player ACCELERATE via Thrusting #1 agains the left thumb and Primary Lever Assembly. If you ain't Thrusted you just got dusted. As a result of the nature of the Thrusts and Hand Acceleration required for Swinging vs. Hitting, I believe that Hitters feel Lag Pressure stronger . . . and they should.
If you are a Hitter, your hands here Megadeath . . . .Swinger's hands here Yani. YIKES!
How is centrifugal force created? Through the pivot? Or by doing something else? Is this what Doyle means when he says the hands have to just know that the left wrist is flat, the right wrist bent and just hold on?
If the force is created by the pivot and the hands do as above, is that pivot controlled hands?
I fight over acceleration a lot, so knowing this stuff would definitely help me.
If the force is created by the pivot and the hands do as above, is that pivot controlled hands?
CF is the Throw- Out action of the power package. This rotor throw out power is the Swinger's launching pad. Since the shoulders are part of both the pivot and power package- they must correlate and synchronize both of them. And the Hands still control the stroke, not the turn, because the pivot must match the delivery path of the hands.
How is centrifugal force created? Through the pivot? Or by doing something else? Is this what Doyle means when he says the hands have to just know that the left wrist is flat, the right wrist bent and just hold on?
If the force is created by the pivot and the hands do as above, is that pivot controlled hands?
I fight over acceleration a lot, so knowing this stuff would definitely help me.
Thanks in advance.
This is a HUGE question of tremendous consequence. I take absolutely no credit for the following. I just happened to be talking to Drew Chapman aka Silver Surfer aka Drewitgolf when I read your post. He launched into a discussion that was truly amazing! I will paraphrase and add a bit to what he said . . . But all credit is to 1. Drew 2. Homer
Again this all goes back to the acceleration requirements . . . Let's first start by distinguishing the Hitter. The Hitter is SOLELY responsible for his Thrust and Acceleration via #1 and the Right Triceps. He MUST start down SLOW to avoid a premature shoot of the proverbial wad. If the hitter were to be "quick" he couldn't sustain the amount of acceleration and thrust required to stifle CF. So he can expend AS MUCH EFFORT AS HE LIKES through the ball. This is what makes hitting so satisfying or "delicious" as Homer says.
Now . . . As a Swinger you can't have EFFORT because you will be fighting CF and CF will fight you back. Yes it is your pivot particularly the Right Shoulder that is reponsible for the generation of CF. And the Right Shoulders motion is generated from the ground up via the Feet and Instant Hip Acceleration. The inertia of the club resisting coming forward as you begin your Pivot Downplane loads your #4, #2 and #3 Pressure Points. So it all is set up with the Pivot. But here is were the paradox is . . .
The book says "BLAST" the Left Arm of the the chest via the Right Shoulder turning into the #4 Pressure Point. OK . . . sounds good. And the Swinger's Startdown is "quick." OK . . . got that too. BUT . . . ALL LAG AND DRAG IS POSITIVE DELIBERATE AND HEAVY??? So what do this mean???
Here's the deal. The connotation of BLAST and QUICK implies (or at least to me) GREAT EFFORT HARD. No! No! No! No! Over-Acceleration is the menance that stalks all Lag and Drag right? You've surely heard that 1,000's of times. The Swinger is also victim of Over-Acceleration arguably more so than the Hitter. This is particularly so when you read the words BLAST and QUICK.
So let's put you, glcoach, at the Top. You are poised to Drag your Hands DOWN PLANE and down the Delivery Path down and through your Aiming Point. You have totally erased the Clubhead from your mind and you are Monitoring the pressure in your #4 and #3. But you think I have to BLAST and Startdown Quick . . . Well guess what? You may have just introduced that a$ Over-Acceleration to your pal #4. Not good . . .
So what does that mean to you and ole #4? Nothing good . . . according to the genius that is DREW CHAPMAN the results are potentially disasterous and as follows:
1. You are thinking EFFORT. CF don't like EFFORT. It likes SCHMOOOOOOOOVE. It wants to travel at a certain speed. You just want to crank'er up not BLAST. Just Load #4. Then you use your Pivot to stay ahead.
2. Operative word next is LET . . . You use the Pivot to just stay ahead . . . that's it. You LET LET LET your arms be SLUNG out. You LET LET LET your pivot SLING the Left Arm off your chest. You LET LET LET your Left Wrist be SLUNG out VERTICALLY Down Plane. You LET LET LET the Club be THROWN OUT . . YOU don't throw it out . . . You LET it be thrown out. But once you have introduced Over-Acceleration you are fighting CF. You have to fight hard with effort because you have conflicting forces and alignments.
3. Once you think BLAST or HARD, you are likely to lose your Waist Bend (Spine Angle). You are likely to Roundhouse. You are likely to Sway. LET the Arm be "blasted" . . . don't YOU blast it. Let it happen. Remember Lag Pressure is measured in OUNCES . . . not POUNDS. That goes for the #4 Pressure Point too.
4. Once you Overload you will also have a harder time "maintaing your angles" according to Drew. If you can Load properly and not Overload, you can drag deeper and get more Trigger Delay and a better Snap Release.
So give this a try . . . Make left hand only full practice Swings. Pay attention particularly to your #4 pressure point. Try varying the sharpness and amount that you Load it. Experiment with the feels. Next hit a ball and focus on #4. See what amount of Loading allows you to LET the club be SLUNG Downplane. What amount of Loading can you best sustain without Overloading?
You are going to make my silver face blush. In all honesty, I have a good coach in Mr. Blake and Kelley.
Remember, the Fourth Power Accumulator is....Radius Power, not Velocity Power. Velocity is your Second Power Accumulator. Said Austin Powers, "Who does number two work for?"
You are going to make my silver face blush. In all honesty, I have a good coach in Mr. Blake and Kelley.
Remember, the Fourth Power Accumulator is....Radius Power, not Velocity Power. Velocity is your Second Power Accumulator. Said Austin Powers, "Who does number two work for?"
You old sailor!!! Here's one for you though . . . Mr. K did say that the Wrist Uncocking was "simply an extension of the Lever Assembly." So don't #2 have something to do with Radius too in its travel to Full Lever Extension?
Remember Lag Pressure is measured in OUNCES . . . not POUNDS. That goes for the #4 Pressure Point too.
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I see. That's what I was wondering how to start it down quickly with a club "weighted" in POUNDS? Now it makes better sense.
Well done and thanks for the explanation.
__________________ Yani Tseng, Go! Go! Go! Yani Tseng Did It Again! YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn. Bend the shaft.
So give this a try . . . Make left hand only full practice Swings. Pay attention particularly to your #4 pressure point. Try varying the sharpness and amount that you Load it. Experiment with the feels. Next hit a ball and focus on #4. See what amount of Loading allows you to LET the club be SLUNG Downplane. What amount of Loading can you best sustain without Overloading?
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Thanks so much for the thoughtful post. A lot of times I am so focused on loading #3 that when I don't initially feel it, I try to feel it by throwing hands at it - adding effort.
The left hand chips feeling #4 works very well especially if I feel like I'm float loading a bit, but this is also where I can overload it, fall behind and exert effort to try and catch up. Load and overload is a fine line and something I will monitor.
Another question, if dragging the hands from the top "feels" heavy, where does it feel heavy, as has been said before #3 & 4 is measured in oz. not lbs., so do I just need to adjust my definition of "heavy"?
Thanks so much for the thoughtful post. A lot of times I am so focused on loading #3 that when I don't initially feel it, I try to feel it by throwing hands at it - adding effort.
The left hand chips feeling #4 works very well especially if I feel like I'm float loading a bit, but this is also where I can overload it, fall behind and exert effort to try and catch up. Load and overload is a fine line and something I will monitor.
Another question, if dragging the hands from the top "feels" heavy, where does it feel heavy, as has been said before #3 & 4 is measured in oz. not lbs., so do I just need to adjust my definition of "heavy"?
Thanks again.
Make FULL practice swings with your left arm only no right hand on the club and no ball (like John Daly does). Just make the motion. Remember this is a SWING. So swing it back across your chest. Start your Downstroke from the ground up. What do you feel? Do you feel #4? (You about have to if you are using your pivot). Now experiment with the amount of loading. Load it light then load it heavy. Try a gentle change of direction from the ground up. Then try to speed it up and make your hips and feet move sharper. What do you feel on #4.
After you monkey around with it. Put your right hand on and hit a ball with your focus on the loading of #4. Remember it is a SWING or maybe even better a SLING. Allow your pivot to sling your arms and hands DOWNPLANE. The effort is DOWN DOWN DOWN and OUT. Your job is to SLING it DOWNPLANE and BUST UP the Plane Line. The job of your hookfaced club is to get the ball to go toward the target. Don't disrupt the orbit. You are LETTING the force SLING Down and OUT. The clubhead is just the weight on the string. The CLUBFACE is designed to DIVERT the force you have created (and hopefully not disrupted) toward the target because it is hookfaced.
Make FULL practice swings with your left arm only no right hand on the club and no ball (like John Daly does). Just make the motion. Remember this is a SWING. So swing it back across your chest. Start your Downstroke from the ground up. What do you feel? Do you feel #4? (You about have to if you are using your pivot). Now experiment with the amount of loading. Load it light then load it heavy. Try a gentle change of direction from the ground up. Then try to speed it up and make your hips and feet move sharper. What do you feel on #4.
After you monkey around with it. Put your right hand on and hit a ball with your focus on the loading of #4. Remember it is a SWING or maybe even better a SLING. Allow your pivot to sling your arms and hands DOWNPLANE. The effort is DOWN DOWN DOWN and OUT. Your job is to SLING it DOWNPLANE and BUST UP the Plane Line. The job of your hookfaced club is to get the ball to go toward the target. Don't disrupt the orbit. You are LETTING the force SLING Down and OUT. The clubhead is just the weight on the string. The CLUBFACE is designed to DIVERT the force you have created (and hopefully not disrupted) toward the target because it is hookfaced.
and Kelley.
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