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Old 06-13-2007, 01:25 PM
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I have the same problem with the driver. I can hit upto 3 wood, and now is trying to hit with the driver. Suppose one swing for all clubs but with the driver, it just feel different. Is it due to the t up?

1. On the backswing, I take it up with the rfa tracing the plane line.
2. Coming down, I always hit very low and not far.
3. If taking too inside, will hit very low.
4. If my left turn too fast, a pull hook.

Do you use a square/square setup? How do you govern the backswing i.e. how to make sure not too inside and be consistent?
Per Kelley, the longer the club the more errors are magnified. Certainly and most logically, it is harder to master clubhead control with a longer club. Just know that there are no quick fixes and settle in for the journey. Absolutely master basic motion with a short club, and along with that, your driver will immediately START to get better (note only START to). Move through the set. I think it would be a stretch to have a case where someone has perfect motion with a sand wedge and then out of no where, they have trouble hitting the driver.
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Old 06-14-2007, 03:24 AM
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Is there difference in the setup? The thing that bother me is I can hit quite well with the 3 wood but with the driver just terrible - and the driver is 1 inch longer and tee higher.
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:52 PM
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Is there difference in the setup? The thing that bother me is I can hit quite well with the 3 wood but with the driver just terrible - and the driver is 1 inch longer and tee higher.
What is the difference in loft between the two clubs?
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The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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Old 06-15-2007, 02:16 AM
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The driver is R7 10.5 degree; the 3 wood is 13 degree.
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Old 06-15-2007, 02:30 PM
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Look, this hitting "stuff" is not efficient, period, end of story. Swingers dont have an issue with longer clubs (irons or woods), as is CLEARLY the case with those trying a hitting procedure.

Look at the number of posts regarding the SAME TOPIC! No other topic dominates the hitting or swinging category like "I can't hit my long irons, woods, or drivers".

Why is that? Its not a good way to play.

PGA, LPGA, Champions, Nationwide, European, Asian, Australian, tours, and all we can find is Stadler, Quiqely, Doyle, Appleby and Ted

If 99% of the best players on earth don't (cant) use this procedure, why should anyone even go down this path? Now thats insanity.

I believe hitting is a specialty shot, as is a flop or lob shot. Its good for shots inside 160 yards, cuts right through any wind and is accurate within this range, but, its not the most versatile way of "building your game around".

You must swing! It allows far more shot options and overall works better.

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Old 06-15-2007, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 300Drive View Post
Look, this hitting "stuff" is not efficient, period, end of story. Swingers dont have an issue with longer clubs (irons or woods), as is CLEARLY the case with those trying a hitting procedure.

Look at the number of posts regarding the SAME TOPIC! No other topic dominates the hitting or swinging category like "I can't hit my long irons, woods, or drivers".

Why is that? Its not a good way to play.

PGA, LPGA, Champions, Nationwide, European, Asian, Australian, tours, and all we can find is Stadler, Quiqely, Doyle, Appleby and Ted

If 99% of the best players on earth don't (cant) use this procedure, why should anyone even go down this path? Now thats insanity.

I believe hitting is a specialty shot, as is a flop or lob shot. Its good for shots inside 160 yards, cuts right through any wind and is accurate within this range, but, its not the most versatile way of "building your game around".

You must swing! It allows far more shot options and overall works better.

Sorry boss . . . no offense but you are DEAD wrong on this'un. You first have to understand it and then you have to execute the alignments. It REALLY isn't that big of a deal once you understand and can execute the procedure.

Guarantee most people that ask the question can't Hit my long irons . . . can't Swing them either . . . that's why everybodies' pimpin' hybrids. In general people get a long iron in their hand and OVERACCELERATE (the menace that stalks all lag and drag). Plus I think people tend to put their focus on the clubhead rather than the hands as the clubs get progressively longer. I actually think it is EASIER to Hit long irons.

And for the record . . . I'm a Swinger.
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:21 PM
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Sorry boss . . . no offense but you are DEAD wrong on this'un. You first have to understand it and then you have to execute the alignments. It REALLY isn't that big of a deal once you understand and can execute the procedure.

Guarantee most people that ask the question can't Hit my long irons . . . can't Swing them either . . . that's why everybodies' pimpin' hybrids. In general people get a long iron in their hand and OVERACCELERATE (the menace that stalks all lag and drag). Plus I think people tend to put their focus on the clubhead rather than the hands as the clubs get progressively longer. I actually think it is EASIER to Hit long irons.

And for the record . . . I'm a Swinger.
Well, I agree with the general notion that hitting/swinging long irons is an issue for the masses.

However, the hitting procedure itself, still sucks in general. There are FAR more posts on how to hit longer clubs in the Hitting section, than Swinging section. Its because of inefficientcy of the procedure.

Additionally, no one seems to want to address the dirth of hitters on the major tours....I summize its because it does not work. If it did, more would have "dug it out of the dirt" by now! Literally thousands of professionals and aspiring professionals have experimented with all kinds of ways of getting the ball to the hole, yet, hitting is not a procedure that many do, or employ in there arsenal of shots, why?

(and don't tell me because they have not discovered Homer, thats old and worn out)
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Old 06-16-2007, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 300Drive View Post
Look, this hitting "stuff" is not efficient, period, end of story. Swingers dont have an issue with longer clubs (irons or woods), as is CLEARLY the case with those trying a hitting procedure.

Look at the number of posts regarding the SAME TOPIC! No other topic dominates the hitting or swinging category like "I can't hit my long irons, woods, or drivers".

Why is that? Its not a good way to play.

PGA, LPGA, Champions, Nationwide, European, Asian, Australian, tours, and all we can find is Stadler, Quiqely, Doyle, Appleby and Ted

If 99% of the best players on earth don't (cant) use this procedure, why should anyone even go down this path? Now thats insanity.

I believe hitting is a specialty shot, as is a flop or lob shot. Its good for shots inside 160 yards, cuts right through any wind and is accurate within this range, but, its not the most versatile way of "building your game around".

You must swing! It allows far more shot options and overall works better.
Well, you knew the insane one (that would be me) would have to disagree on many points.

Although I've taught some Tour Players, I do not play for a living. So, I shouldn't be included in your list of players. I'm a teacher that loves to play, and I wish I had more time to do so.

But, I am capable of Hitting. I have had sub-par rounds in tournaments using the procedure. And, I'm presently Hitting the ball very well. I was a bad Swinger.

In my second match of our 2006 Georgia Match Play Championship, I was 5 under on the 4 par fives (one eagle and three birdies). So, apparently, distance is not a problem for a Hitter.

Until I met Lynn, I had never met a Golfing Machine teacher that thought Hitting was a valid procedure. And, I knew many. Homer thought Hitting was equally useful, precise, and powerful. With him, I agree. I do not agree with the school of thought that Hitting is only for the short game. I don't know many that could truly describe the Angle of Approach Procedure. So, if anyone had ever tried to Hit, it was probably not pure.

As much as I'm ashamed to have to agree with Bucket , it is overacceleration that ruins the ability to Hit a driver. Since we have no club longer than a driver, we add too much (early) speed when we want to Hit the ball hard. The slow Start Down for the Hitter (mentioned in 6-H-0) is mandatory.

Hitting is a lost art. But, I'm very happy to have found it.

So, no...I must not Swing.
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Old 06-17-2007, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke View Post
Well, you knew the insane one (that would be me) would have to disagree on many points.

Although I've taught some Tour Players, I do not play for a living. So, I shouldn't be included in your list of players. I'm a teacher that loves to play, and I wish I had more time to do so.

But, I am capable of Hitting. I have had sub-par rounds in tournaments using the procedure. And, I'm presently Hitting the ball very well. I was a bad Swinger.

In my second match of our 2006 Georgia Match Play Championship, I was 5 under on the 4 par fives (one eagle and three birdies). So, apparently, distance is not a problem for a Hitter.

Until I met Lynn, I had never met a Golfing Machine teacher that thought Hitting was a valid procedure. And, I knew many. Homer thought Hitting was equally useful, precise, and powerful. With him, I agree. I do not agree with the school of thought that Hitting is only for the short game. I don't know many that could truly describe the Angle of Approach Procedure. So, if anyone had ever tried to Hit, it was probably not pure.

As much as I'm ashamed to have to agree with Bucket , it is overacceleration that ruins the ability to Hit a driver. Since we have no club longer than a driver, we add too much (early) speed when we want to Hit the ball hard. The slow Start Down for the Hitter (mentioned in 6-H-0) is mandatory.

Hitting is a lost art. But, I'm very happy to have found it.

So, no...I must not Swing.
300,

I switched to hitting and in 2 weeks I am HITTING my driver better than ever. I am sustaining the lag, I have video proof.
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The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:24 PM
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Well, you knew the insane one (that would be me) would have to disagree on many points.

Although I've taught some Tour Players, I do not play for a living. So, I shouldn't be included in your list of players. I'm a teacher that loves to play, and I wish I had more time to do so.

But, I am capable of Hitting. I have had sub-par rounds in tournaments using the procedure. And, I'm presently Hitting the ball very well. I was a bad Swinger.

In my second match of our 2006 Georgia Match Play Championship, I was 5 under on the 4 par fives (one eagle and three birdies). So, apparently, distance is not a problem for a Hitter.

Until I met Lynn, I had never met a Golfing Machine teacher that thought Hitting was a valid procedure. And, I knew many. Homer thought Hitting was equally useful, precise, and powerful. With him, I agree. I do not agree with the school of thought that Hitting is only for the short game. I don't know many that could truly describe the Angle of Approach Procedure. So, if anyone had ever tried to Hit, it was probably not pure.

As much as I'm ashamed to have to agree with Bucket , it is overacceleration that ruins the ability to Hit a driver. Since we have no club longer than a driver, we add too much (early) speed when we want to Hit the ball hard. The slow Start Down for the Hitter (mentioned in 6-H-0) is mandatory.

Hitting is a lost art. But, I'm very happy to have found it.

So, no...I must not Swing.
Ted is being very modest here.
The Day before the Falcons fire school,he played at Eagle Creek in Orlando with some friends of mine.I told one of my friends to tell Ted on the tee that he could reach the 7th green if he bombed it across the O.B. on the right.
I forgot Ted was playing off the tips-it was 346 yards to the pin!.I was parked near the green and he carried it 320 -and just popped out of the rough another 5 yds.
Not bad for a hitter
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