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"Use the Bounce of the club" means what in the shortgame???? (excludes bunker shots)

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Old 06-17-2007, 08:08 AM
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I have probably used club bounce a lot,I mainly use it to ensure the club does,nt get a chance to dig in causing fluffed shot by using bottom of club to ride over turf,whereas using leading edge can sometimes dig in,I mainly use it around greens for short chips etc,ensuring that I keep hands ahead of c/head at all times and not be afraid of giving it a hit
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Old 06-17-2007, 06:22 PM
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Stan Utley advocate and suggest golfers fail to use the bounce correctly for the short game shots. He uses primarily a 58* 12* bounce for almost all his chips, pitches and bunker shots. Also he talks about hitting a ball off of concrete using his style.

He just came out with a book, The Art of the Short Game, June 2007 Stan Utley.
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I picked up Utleys book and he advocates hitting the ground first, then the ball, on pitch shots....????###@@@@. What!
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I picked up Utleys book and he advocates hitting the ground first, then the ball, on pitch shots....????###@@@@. What!

He's probably a Hitter or something stoopid like that .
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He's probably a Hitter or something stoopid like that .
Ha, Ha, Ha, ......Agreed!
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Ha, Ha, Ha, ......Agreed!
Do you have the book? What did he say about hitting behind it?

I have hit some shots like that intentionally when the ball is sitting crappy. You can hit some soft shots that way. Interested to hear what he has to say. He was the flavor of the month not long ago.

I saw him playing at the Masters back in the 90's . . . he was still sportin' a mullet . . . lookin suuuhwheat.
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Do you have the book? What did he say about hitting behind it?

I have hit some shots like that intentionally when the ball is sitting crappy. You can hit some soft shots that way. Interested to hear what he has to say. He was the flavor of the month not long ago.

I saw him playing at the Masters back in the 90's . . . he was still sportin' a mullet . . . lookin suuuhwheat.
He says on pitch shots, he likes to use the bounce of the club to hit turf first, then the ball (shaft should be vertical or very close to it at impact). He does not like spin on pitch shots, as its less predictable than height + roll.

Mid ball position, 70% weight left (this encourages the downward angle of attack and provides a consistant low point, at which the ball should be placed just in front of that low point), and you pivot around that left post (leg), your arms go inside on the backswing and around you on the forward swing (think, sweep). Soft elbows allow for the swinging from inside, to square, to inside. Angled hinging.

He also says he hits (oops) his chips with his pivot, swinging around his left post.

His overall big key is turning around your spine, and having a consistent low point from which to sweep the ball, chipping or pitching, towards the target without much spin. No Lee Trevino divots from this guy.

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Old 06-21-2007, 06:10 PM
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Stan Utley advocate and suggest golfers fail to use the bounce correctly for the short game shots. He uses primarily a 58* 12* bounce for almost all his chips, pitches and bunker shots. Also he talks about hitting a ball off of concrete using his style.

He just came out with a book, The Art of the Short Game, June 2007 Stan Utley.
YUP... That what I thought and then decided to try it.

Well it takes a bit to get use to, at least for me.

Interesting the pitch shots I hit from 15 to 40 yds, I don't think they were more that 3 feet from where they hit. Not much spin and no they aren't going to back up.

This reminds me of the dead hands shot the Ken Venturi used to advocate.

I do think he has a lot of good info on faults and causes in his book. Though I think it is not written well and someone with a dictionary of buzz words seems to have injected them into the text.

I have read it twice now, took notes, tried it. Will I change? That remains to be seen, I will definitely add some of what he has to my tool set but to change wholesale, not sure I am ready for that.
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Old 06-22-2007, 09:56 AM
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YUP... That what I thought and then decided to try it.

Well it takes a bit to get use to, at least for me.

Interesting the pitch shots I hit from 15 to 40 yds, I don't think they were more that 3 feet from where they hit. Not much spin and no they aren't going to back up.

This reminds me of the dead hands shot the Ken Venturi used to advocate.

I do think he has a lot of good info on faults and causes in his book. Though I think it is not written well and someone with a dictionary of buzz words seems to have injected them into the text.

I have read it twice now, took notes, tried it. Will I change? That remains to be seen, I will definitely add some of what he has to my tool set but to change wholesale, not sure I am ready for that.
Agree with not changing everything. I like his chipping; my results with it have yielded more precitability and control.

I like hit pitching for "certain situations" (i.e., back pins, wind, etc). BUT, I still need the compression pitches as well for tucked pins.
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