Also , its is written 7-3 that it is mandatory for swinging and hitting ,not only hands or shaft the right forearm must be driven or thrown into impact. He did not say for HITTING must be driven or swinging must be thrown. I guess it is a choice.
I also think, the way the right forearm is aligned for swinging, it pulls the left arm like a piece of string and support the secondary . That type of assembly allows for CF throwout. Adding a Drive in that assembly is perfectly acceptable, regardless of swinging or hitting , as explained by TT.
So we got 2 ways . and still being able to do a 4 Barrell swing since the right is actively driving . Though Homer used to say there is no 4 barrel swing.. BUT IMHO, at that context of time he feel he need to explain that way or think there isn't one.
FOR a HIT, the left arm is a wall, and the right forearm is actively driving via primary assembly , there is less CF throwout. Notice i say less.
Because Anyhow, the left can only pull, the right can only push. Pull causes throwout, push is drive.
Let me know what you think, Thank you
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The left can push (in "hitting") and the right can pull (in "swinging"), as well.
__________________ Yani Tseng, Go! Go! Go! Yani Tseng Did It Again! YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn. Bend the shaft.
I bought Homer's first book and all the subsequent ones also. I took a lesson from him and Ben Doyle in 1969 in Seattle. Later had lunch with Homer from about about 1974 until he died. Below is how he really felt. He expected his students to take his work to another level.
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This is a 5-barrel stroke with pp#5. Is it a swing or a hit?
Last edited by Bagger Lance : 07-01-2007 at 11:17 PM.
Thanks for fixing the link. Homer gave all of hmself in whatever he did. Much of my association with Homer was "trying to learn, but not pushing the issues, since I had many conflicting issues." However, he never took any of this as personal. He was a true gentleman who lifted the analysis of the golf stroke to new levels. It is up to you and others as students to add to that legacy!
I had played golf about 25 years before I found TGM which I erroniously thought the plane? was the holy grail. It is not!!! If anything, it is the blending/control of the/a-plane concept and the continual arcing (down/out/forward) of the clubhead arc, the clubface re-rotation arc(s) closing and de-lofting plus horizontal considerations. Three dimentional space and motion is golf's reality as is the timing of thereof???
As far as I can tell only the Right Arm and Shoulder are in a position to Push.
In hitting, the left hand is the "fulcrum", whereas the right is the "force" (and the club is the "weight")-class III Lever, in which the "fulcrum" needs to be pushed against (as well) in order for the "force" to be applied.
In hitting, the right hand can be the "fulcrum", whereas the left be the "force" (and the club is the "weight")-class I Lever, in which the "fulcrum (the right hand)" needs to be pushed against (as well) in order for the "force (the left hand)" to be applied.
In either case, the left hand/side needs to "push" (while being pulled/draged by the pivot).
__________________ Yani Tseng, Go! Go! Go! Yani Tseng Did It Again! YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn. Bend the shaft.
In hitting, the right hand can be the "fulcrum", whereas the left be the "force" (and the club is the "weight")-class I Lever, in which the "fulcrum (the right hand)" needs to be pushed against (as well) in order for the "force (the left hand)" to be applied.
In either case, the left hand/side needs to "push" (while being pulled/draged by the pivot).
I can't even visualize this for hitting unless we are talking about a left handed golfer.
First - Only a form III lever is used in the golf stroke. Look at a form 1 lever (2-L) and tell me how this is done. Also take a look at 6-A-2 for further clarification.
Second - Only the right arm is in a position to push.
Finally - The left side contribution to muscle power is so minimal, it isn't even considered in the power package and even pivot power isn't necessary for hitting. There is no "left hand" force in hitting.
I know you are trying to enlighten us BTS, but like 6B mentioned: "There is a lot of seems as if in this thread".
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