When I first started using this image I used what felt like a straight line delivery path, meticulous attention to balance and PP3 sensation. The result was (i think - not yet on video) a TSP (turned shoulder plane) non-shifting downswing. There did not seem to be much hip slide, but there was some.
Reviewing this image, I tinkered with moving my hands along different delivery paths, focusing on :-
- maintaining the sense of drag that weight places on the clubhead
- the delivery path of the hands
- remaining in balance
On attempting the 10-23-B delivery path:-
10-23-B. ANGLED LINE
This pattern is used with the Plane Angle Variations that include a shift to (or back to) the Elbow Plane Angle during the Downstroke (10-7).
From the Top-of-the-Straight-Line hand position the Hands take a nearly vertical path to the Plane of the Elbow Plane Angle before they start their drive directly at and through the Aiming Point (2-J-3).
Just by moving my hands vertically down and thinking about nothing else but balance (moving yet staying in balance) the hips slid alot more...the hip slide is a balance driven response to the body doing "essentials" and "imperatives" whilst i consciously move my hands.
Hand-movement controlled pivot.
OK - so i have only done this in slow motion but it does seem to give automatic lower body motion at that speed. But it is balance that drives it.
Try and move your hands vertically down (yet on plane) and consciously DO NOT move your lower body... feels really unbalanced.... you can do it and the sceptics are correct in saying that mere movement of the hands does not force the pivot to move....
...so go back and move your hands in the same manner but let your body "do balance"...and the hips HAVE TO slide.... so mere hand movement in the context of the essentials ( and that includes balance...moving whatever it is allowed to move to stay in balance...the constraints of the essentials means that you have programmed it to move the head as little as possible...so it moves something else....pivot)
So it seems to me...
Remember this is the LAB section so please do not take this as the truth...just things to tinker with... a few ideas form the incubator that need airing...see what others say... Thanks for reading...sorry if i wasted your time!
When I first started using this image I used what felt like a straight line delivery path, meticulous attention to balance and PP3 sensation. The result was (i think - not yet on video) a TSP (turned shoulder plane) non-shifting downswing. There did not seem to be much hip slide, but there was some.
Reviewing this image, I tinkered with moving my hands along different delivery paths, focusing on :-
- maintaining the sense of drag that weight places on the clubhead
- the delivery path of the hands
- remaining in balance
On attempting the 10-23-B delivery path:-
10-23-B. ANGLED LINE
This pattern is used with the Plane Angle Variations that include a shift to (or back to) the Elbow Plane Angle during the Downstroke (10-7).
From the Top-of-the-Straight-Line hand position the Hands take a nearly vertical path to the Plane of the Elbow Plane Angle before they start their drive directly at and through the Aiming Point (2-J-3).
Just by moving my hands vertically down and thinking about nothing else but balance (moving yet staying in balance) the hips slid alot more...the hip slide is a balance driven response to the body doing "essentials" and "imperatives" whilst i consciously move my hands.
Hand-movement controlled pivot.
OK - so i have only done this in slow motion but it does seem to give automatic lower body motion at that speed. But it is balance that drives it.
Try and move your hands vertically down (yet on plane) and consciously DO NOT move your lower body... feels really unbalanced.... you can do it and the sceptics are correct in saying that mere movement of the hands does not force the pivot to move....
...so go back and move your hands in the same manner but let your body "do balance"...and the hips HAVE TO slide.... so mere hand movement in the context of the essentials ( and that includes balance...moving whatever it is allowed to move to stay in balance...the constraints of the essentials means that you have programmed it to move the head as little as possible...so it moves something else....pivot)
So it seems to me...
Remember this is the LAB section so please do not take this as the truth...just things to tinker with... a few ideas form the incubator that need airing...see what others say... Thanks for reading...sorry if i wasted your time!
Dawg you are ON FIRE . . . what you are showing/demoing/doing is accelerating the club "lenghtwise" . . . LONGITUDINAL ACCELERATION . . . these images are VERY good. The whole body (Massive Rotor) is PULLING the DEAD WEIGHT INERTIA of the SWEETSPOT . . . LONGITUDINAL CENTER OF GRAVITY . . .
Dawg you are ON FIRE . . . what you are showing/demoing/doing is accelerating the club "lenghtwise" . . . LONGITUDINAL ACCELERATION . . . these images are VERY good. The whole body (Massive Rotor) is PULLING the DEAD WEIGHT INERTIA of the SWEETSPOT . . . LONGITUDINAL CENTER OF GRAVITY . . .
VERY NICE WORK.
Thanks Bucket - what has really surprised me was how central balance is to hands controlling pivot - but only when the hands can sense lag and the brain knows where that lag is being aimed...
I was surprised that angled delivery path is reproducible using 2 aiming points...one for the plane shift ( hands drop vertically but on plane) and then one ( the normal one ) towards the ball.... but the surprise came from the pivot seeming to respond to the "force assignment" that the hands command...
... and it seems like it is balance that does the work... it listens to the "force assignment" being delivered by the hands....fits it into its on-going task of balance +steady head etc.... and then tells your pivot what it need to do ...all without having to think about it....
Your first move, dragging the butt of the club down to the ground, I believe is what is referred to as taking the arrow from the quiver per 10-19-C.
The hip slide caused by pulling the hands down seems to be the equivalent of what Tom Tomasello talks about on his tapes when he says, from the top fo the swing, you sould reconnect the right elbow to the right hip. Tomasello says that the movement will automatically cause the hip to bump out or slide (I'm paraphrasing).
Anyway, please keep posting your thoughts in the lab, this is a great thread.
Last edited by finster869 : 12-01-2007 at 08:15 AM.
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