efnef ,What is an average Joe?-I am not going into the"I can hit it 300yds" stuff.ALMOST EVERYONE -with an Ego, can hit it that far{in their dreams} .I can only say- I'm not short off the tee.
I do not think that anyone on this forum is stupid,but I do think that a lot of people are unaware of the reality of the equipment manufacturers' MO.
Does anyone think that the .083C.O.R. drivers that they use are the same as the Pros?
I Don't. Some do.
So why do we pay $600 for "tour preferred " Drivers.? The Pros don't use them.
A lot of Pros used to play "prototype"balls , and I believe these have been replaced by "tour"balls -same name -[on the box]-different ball.
Would a manufacturer recall a ball named "prov1" when they have a new "super duper Pro v 1" being used on tour and 400,000,000 of the old ones on the shelves in pro shops around the world-of course not,they would call it the "new"Pro v1 -AFTER they had sold all the old stuff.[or most of it].
Maybe it's just me
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Last edited by neil : 01-06-2008 at 09:38 PM.
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Neil, I don't disagree with you. I think we are not understanding each other very well, so I will restate my thoughts. First of all, I have owned dozens of tour clubs, and yes, many are obviously different. The TM 200 Tour FW Woods were definitely way different from the retail models, the 300 Tour and R500 drivers were night and day compared to their retail counterparts, just to name a few of the more famous examples. In both cases, they were prototypes of new technology that found their ways into later TM retail models. Yes, I would not be surprised if the pros are always one step ahead of us in playing prototype balls as well as clubs. I thought you were implying or stating that this technology would never see the light of day at the retail level. Of course it will. The Super Duper ProV1 will hit the shelves in due time.
Tour balls must be listed on the "Conforming Balls List." The ball must be marked exactly. For instance, <proVI> vs <<proVI>> While they may not yet (if ever) be available, I don't think companies would risk altering ball composition with the standard markings. Tour balls might have to pass tighter quality control. They are not so restricted with club markings.
You may have found a majic ball to fit your driver. Launch and spin, etc. Or maybe Gulbis talked to your balls before they got in with the other ones.
By the way, I hate my player to change clubs, but I would rather he change all fourteen than turn up with a new ball. Esp, mid season.
Tour balls must be listed on the "Conforming Balls List." The ball must be marked exactly. For instance, <proVI> vs <<proVI>> While they may not yet (if ever) be available, I don't think companies would risk altering ball composition with the standard markings. Tour balls might have to pass tighter quality control. They are not so restricted with club markings.
You may have found a majic ball to fit your driver. Launch and spin, etc. Or maybe Gulbis talked to your balls before they got in with the other ones.
By the way, I hate my player to change clubs, but I would rather he change all fourteen than turn up with a new ball. Esp, mid season.
Thanks Henny -Gulbis could talk to my balls anytime she wants!
Thanks Henny -Gulbis could talk to my balls anytime she wants!
Please . . . you got a better chance at beatin' Ted in a race to the last cicken fried chicken biscuit than to have "Neil" and "Ballz" pass across her lips in the same sentence, or paragraph or solilaquy. So don't take that Rosanne Bar poster off your wall just yet . . . you got a face that even Ted's momma couldn't love.
I'm getting tired of having to type"a bit rude"on this forum! My wife says I look pretty good-and she's about the size of Rozanne Barr -WHEN SHE WAS BORN !
By the way did you get round to Teds' for the "fitting".
I'm getting tired of having to type"a bit rude"on this forum! My wife says I look pretty good-and she's about the size of Rozanne Barr -WHEN SHE WAS BORN !
By the way did you get round to Teds' for the "fitting".
-and who is solli-a- guy?
You got me . . . Remember you chided me not too long ago for calling you "cute." If I were a chick I'd be Rozanne Barr . . .
Neil, I don't disagree with you. I think we are not understanding each other very well, so I will restate my thoughts. First of all, I have owned dozens of tour clubs, and yes, many are obviously different. The TM 200 Tour FW Woods were definitely way different from the retail models, the 300 Tour and R500 drivers were night and day compared to their retail counterparts, just to name a few of the more famous examples. In both cases, they were prototypes of new technology that found their ways into later TM retail models. Yes, I would not be surprised if the pros are always one step ahead of us in playing prototype balls as well as clubs. I thought you were implying or stating that this technology would never see the light of day at the retail level. Of course it will. The Super Duper ProV1 will hit the shelves in due time.
I totally agree with you-but "we"will always be one step behind
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