Goosen Rt side swinger or hitter w/ silky tempo?

[ColtsFan]

What would guys say this guy's pattern is? I have looked at clip after clip. He and Apples look like hitters w/ enviable tempo. He goes kinda wide w/ on the the take away, but narrows it up big time on DS. Looks like great rt. side extensor action late in the DS.

[ColtsFan]

whats his club face doing on the backswing? Angled?

[Yoda]

From the beginning, Retief Goosen has been a Right Arm Swinger.

His post-Impact Left Wrist alignment (Bent) has been intolerable to some and derided by others. Yet, he has won two United States Open Championships.



Right Arm Swing.

Left Arm Swing.

Right Arm Hit.

It only really matters when you do it for a living.

I don't think so.

[ColtsFan]

thanks Yoda,

Does he use a horizontal or angled hinging procedure? In this video he appears a little shut.

I thought he might be more of hitter because of the bent left arm at impact, versus straight left arm when swinging.

Another question for you, does the bent left wrist post impact pose a problem w/ consistency? I thought as long as it was flat at impact, that you would be ok.....maybe not, Im just starting the learning process

[bambam]

Does he use a horizontal or angled hinging procedure? In this video he appears a little shut.

Hard for me to tell from this video, as I can't get the video to stop after impact to get any clues. I think there is a tendency to angle hinge if you don't employ a startup swivel (leave the face looking at the ball on the takeaway), which would give it that shut look on the way back.

[Sligo33]

thanks Yoda,

does the bent left wrist post impact pose a problem w/ consistency? I thought as long as it was flat at impact, that you would be ok.....maybe not, Im just starting the learning process

post impact positions have a nasty habit of becomingpre - impact positions. The FLAT LEFT WRIST is the #1 Imperative for a good reason. There are players whose athletic ability will be able to compensate for a BENT LEFT WRIST. The question is can they do every time and to the same degree every time? Odds are they cannot.

[ColtsFan]

Ben,

Do you know if hitters always use an angled hinge at start up and follow through? Azinger, at least when he was coached by Redman, used angled hinge on BS, DS, and FT but I always thought he was a left side pull swinger.

Sligo,

I see your point. Not training for a FLW post impact could easily lead to flipping at impact if you dont watch it...

[bambam]

Do know if hitters always use an angled hinge at start up and follow through? Azinger, at least when he was coached by Redman, used angled hinge on BS, DS, and FT but I always thought he was a left side pull swinger.

A couple things:

Hinge action doesn't occur at startup. It's what the club does just after impact. If I had the book in front of me, I'd get you the reference (I'll add it later). The takeaway does tend to setup your motion for the desired hinge action, however.

Per 10-19-0, "Hinge Action does NOT differentiate Hitting and Swinging", so I wouldn't say a hitter always uses angled hinging, but it is the natural tendency when hitting, just like horizontal hinging is the natural tendency when swinging.

[ColtsFan]

gotcha, thanks man...

[Delaware Golf]

From the beginning, Retief Goosen has been a Right Arm Swinger.

His post-Impact Left Wrist alignment (Bent) has been intolerable to some and derided by others. Yet, he has won two United States Open Championships.



Right Arm Swing.

Left Arm Swing.

Right Arm Hit.

It only really matters when you do it for a living.

I don't think so.

Yes, Retief is a right arm swinger (a tour proven way to swing a golf club).....confirmed by Ian Baker-Finch while analyzing Retief's swing in slow-motion on a ABC golf telecast...So is Ernie Els while were at it. Just read his classic swing golf book....he sounds like Tomasello. The Magic of the Right Forearm....the Magic Move.

After watching Retief's golf swing in slow motion on youtube....I believe if he knew the three imperatives (especially clubhead lag pressure point and how it relates to the straight plane line, that concept is huge) he would go to the next level of consistency.



DG