No I dropped out of school and I live on the street.
I think you need to read 2-m-1 and 2-e so you understand conservation of momentum in golf.
Wow the paper is only three years old , interesting present me with data using opti sensors and using vicon system for starters.
they are only measuring certain segments,they are using a cheap 6 dof system which is limited to data.
how about providing data which they are using the full body suit you wear which has opti sensors and every body part and every muscle and both hands as well.
If your placing your beliefs on this one paper whom's technology limits them to measuring data don't waste my time.
It's funny you a man of science base, interesting I wondering if you can read,
I think you need to re read the paper to understand what it is they are studying exactly, I don't believe they are talking about ball compression or how hard they are driving the right arm home to compress the ball, I don't see they are talking about the angles of the right hand at all. hmmm
Now I'm starting to question how much you do know about science and what you know about golf,
Golf is easy to answer very little. have you ever study T.G.M, indicate you haven't.
don't waste my time with data that isn't using the best technology ,
that data was almost as good as K-vest.
clothes move in motion so the sensors would have moved, I bet you haven't seen the research papers they did on this.
I love their little quote stating they used snug clothing.
Most researchers would have thrown this paper over their shoulder once they read this.
good to see you know your a man of science based and not technology based as well. This way we can accept the fact that you based you belief on science and entrusted these guys were using state of the art technology.
don't be to upset. I understand your a man of science. And your not up to speed with technology and measuring systems, Our understand the difference between all the 6 dof systems out there.
One thing I've liked about this forum is that for the most part the posts are cordial and there is an effort to "understand and learn". For that to happen - two people must provide new information and using reason - eventually come to a common understanding. There is always a place for debate or strong disagreement but when you run out of "ammunition" it's probably time to stop and walk away instead heading down the road of name calling or degrading the other persons character in order to "win". In fact if you do that - you probably don't have the information to support your statements- fully i.e. to have someone else understand them.
Since I'm not an owner of this site nor an administrator of this site- you don't need to listen to me - my only credentials are 900+ posts - some good - some bad - but here's just a thought -
1) if you've posted on this thread
2) if you are new to the forum with less than 20 lifetime posts
3) if you've re-read your posts and found that you've more than once personally attacked the character of another forum member (whether provoked or not)
4) Then, consider either changing your approach or leave!
I've got a nice neighborhood and nice neighbors - we have certain rules in the Association, certain standards of conduct. You're probably accustomed to living in today's world where anything goes- where there is no black and white - where you feel some fundamental right to act however you want - you know - "free speech"- if that's the case then GET OUT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD!
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Ya, know what you mean Mike. But I dont want these guys to stop outright.
Bio, NM. Why dont you debate a single aspect of the swing that relates to the topic at hand. Something that we golf practitioners would find of practical interest.
I am interested in the hips for instance. My first TGM based instructor (not an AI I should mention) suggested that it isnt how fast you spin your hips but rather how quickly you stop them that adds to the clubhead's speed.
Personally I dont subscribe to either extreme. I can spin or spin and brake my hips without my arms even moving an inch if I wish.
In regard to maximizing clubhead speed should the hips:
-spin hard?
-brake hard?
-merely smoothly initiate?
In essence I agree with Mike O (jsut not about COAM),
Forum participation should be a generally pleasant mutually beneficial, mutually edifying experience. The Golden Rule should always apply (and I am not referring to the: He with the gold (forum owner) RULES interpretation of that either).
Frankly I'm not interest in "debating" anything with anyone. I have my opinions formed from the basis of my experiences (scholastic and otherwise) and I'm willing to share to those provided they're not answered by insults. Discussion... yes. Pointing out errors in my logic... yes absolutely but ad homenin insults completely devoid of substance NO WAY.
I have some thoughts on the matter of a golfers hip action but honestly... I ask you what is the point sharing them? When I find myself dreading the thought of checking responses to a forum post I've made, its probably time to move on.
kind regards all...
Originally Posted by O.B.Left
Ya, know what you mean Mike. But I dont want these guys to stop outright.
Bio, NM. Why dont you debate a single aspect of the swing that relates to the topic at hand. Something that we golf practitioners would find of practical interest.
I am interested in the hips for instance. My first TGM based instructor (not an AI I should mention) suggested that it isnt how fast you spin your hips but rather how quickly you stop them that adds to the clubhead's speed.
Personally I dont subscribe to either extreme. I can spin or spin and brake my hips without my arms even moving an inch if I wish.
In regard to maximizing clubhead speed should the hips:
-spin hard?
-brake hard?
-merely smoothly initiate?
One thing I've liked about this forum is that for the most part the posts are cordial and there is an effort to "understand and learn". For that to happen - two people must provide new information and using reason - eventually come to a common understanding. There is always a place for debate or strong disagreement but when you run out of "ammunition" it's probably time to stop and walk away instead heading down the road of name calling or degrading the other persons character in order to "win". In fact if you do that - you probably don't have the information to support your statements- fully i.e. to have someone else understand them.
Since I'm not an owner of this site nor an administrator of this site- you don't need to listen to me - my only credentials are 900+ posts - some good - some bad - but here's just a thought -
1) if you've posted on this thread
2) if you are new to the forum with less than 20 lifetime posts
3) if you've re-read your posts and found that you've more than once personally attacked the character of another forum member (whether provoked or not)
4) Then, consider either changing your approach or leave!
I've got a nice neighborhood and nice neighbors - we have certain rules in the Association, certain standards of conduct. You're probably accustomed to living in today's world where anything goes- where there is no black and white - where you feel some fundamental right to act however you want - you know - "free speech"- if that's the case then GET OUT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD!
Bucket is alive! I was afraid the poultry police took him....
__________________ Hitting the Ball is the easiest part of the game-hitting it effectively is the most difficult. Why trust instinct when there is a science."1-G.
That's the best you could do? You're slippin Bra!
What the hell just happened there? BamBam please check where you left a window open- the Bucket has escaped the mental ward and is now back!!! Run!!
P.S. And I sense that Okie's doubting that I would qualify for a home owner's assocation?!
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Interests - Dabbling with insanity
Hobbies- Creating Quality
I seriously doubt you even know what a degree of freedom is.
You're a phoney... a fake... a poser.
In fact its obvious you don't know squat about mechanics, bio or otherwise.
So you've purchased a license to dispense BS at $50 a pop. BIG DEAL
The real problem is you're clueless.
Originally Posted by biomechanic
No I dropped out of school and I live on the street.
I think you need to read 2-m-1 and 2-e so you understand conservation of momentum in golf.
Wow the paper is only three years old , interesting present me with data using opti sensors and using vicon system for starters.
they are only measuring certain segments,they are using a cheap 6 dof system which is limited to data.
how about providing data which they are using the full body suit you wear which has opti sensors and every body part and every muscle and both hands as well.
If your placing your beliefs on this one paper whom's technology limits them to measuring data don't waste my time.
It's funny you a man of science base, interesting I wondering if you can read,
I think you need to re read the paper to understand what it is they are studying exactly, I don't believe they are talking about ball compression or how hard they are driving the right arm home to compress the ball, I don't see they are talking about the angles of the right hand at all. hmmm
Now I'm starting to question how much you do know about science and what you know about golf,
Golf is easy to answer very little. have you ever study T.G.M, indicate you haven't.
don't waste my time with data that isn't using the best technology ,
that data was almost as good as K-vest.
clothes move in motion so the sensors would have moved, I bet you haven't seen the research papers they did on this.
I love their little quote stating they used snug clothing.
Most researchers would have thrown this paper over their shoulder once they read this.
good to see you know your a man of science based and not technology based as well. This way we can accept the fact that you based you belief on science and entrusted these guys were using state of the art technology.
don't be to upset. I understand your a man of science. And your not up to speed with technology and measuring systems, Our understand the difference between all the 6 dof systems out there.
B. J. Hathaway, G.S.E.B., M.C.I.
BamBam please check where you left a window open- the Bucket has escaped the mental ward and is now back!!! Run!!
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