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Old 06-15-2009, 11:22 PM
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It looks like pulling. I didn't see a single indication of any #1 Thrusting.


The reason I am pretty sure it is not pulling is the fact that Hogan himself talkes about not activating the tendons in the left arm other than in his last three fingers. If you look at most photos of Hogan from a left side impact view he is not even flexing in his left arm. Watch the video below @ 1:33 you will see the club face look to the sky from its past position. This is the right wrist bowing I am talking about. Now to the pulling, if Hogan pulls the club to the inside where his hands disaper that shuts down the face, but he is pushing with the right hand and rotating with the ride side which pushes or pulls the left side clear if the left arm pit stays connected. Apples and Oranges there, but you can see what I mean.




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Old 06-16-2009, 12:09 AM
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Hey Burley

What if he pulled but not so much with his left arm say but with his body, his left arm being like an inert rope? A stretched out rope running between the left shoulder and the outwardly extending right arm. Then the left arm muscles would be relaxed except for the strong hold in the last three fingers and the engaged tendons attached to them.
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:51 AM
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Hey Burley

What if he pulled but not so much with his left arm say but with his body, his left arm being like an inert rope? A stretched out rope running between the left shoulder and the outwardly extending right arm. Then the left arm muscles would be relaxed except for the strong hold in the last three fingers and the engaged tendons attached to them.

It's possible! I just think that he knew OTT came from the left side in his swing and he could apply push/rotation with the strong side and felt comfortable of not missing it left, while having full control of the club face and power. "The left arm is a NERD"!

Watch this video, this is what Hogan felt if you look at his swing it's dofferent but thats feel! It vary's to each person! The part I want you to watch is when he says "most people do it wrong and start the swing with the upper body".


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Old 06-16-2009, 02:44 AM
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Hi Burley,

What is the difference between yours and Mr. Gary Edwin's on Hogan right-side swing concept?

BTW, what is your opinion why Hogan's right foot slided so much even with iron shots?

Back to this original topic, the magical device book, the writer focus on how Mr. Hogan's power package attached to the rotating torso...it is not something new, even with the word "magical" added. I prefer the "Magic of the right forearm" though.

Hope I have chance to read your book soon.
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Old 06-16-2009, 05:41 AM
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Hi Burley,

What is the difference between yours and Mr. Gary Edwin's on Hogan right-side swing concept?

BTW, what is your opinion why Hogan's right foot slided so much even with iron shots?

Back to this original topic, the magical device book, the writer focus on how Mr. Hogan's power package attached to the rotating torso...it is not something new, even with the word "magical" added. I prefer the "Magic of the right forearm" though.

Hope I have chance to read your book soon.

Hello KOC-

To be honest I had never heard of Gary until I just Google him. I watched a few of his video's and liked what I saw, other than that I guess you have to pay to joing his website to learn what his teachings are about right side golf.

What makes Hogan's right foot slide? Well the basic answer would be force but the answer you are looking for in my own words has to be the right knee. I think once the rigth knee starts to fold the spikes are useless as the foot rolls in, but! Hogan knew this and was on a firm left leg. I think he tried to use the inner toe spikes later in the down swing so the foot did not slip, but could not fully because it would hinder the motion of the right hip "Humping The Goat as yall call it". So as he used the last little bit of leverage he had in the right foot or toe to keep from falling back right, the momentom of the everything pulls the foot foward just a little as he then proceed's to post on it for a balanced finish. I hope that helps, if you see something else I would love to hear.

Just to add a quick note for the left side crowd that feel Hogan might have pulled with the left, it is pretty hard on a firm left side to pull with the left. Just for laughts stand on you left leg and lean to the right and try to turn you left hip clear... The right foot, Right Knee, right hand push through - the right hip, right shoulder rotate through! IMO

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Hello KOC-

To be honest I had never heard of Gary until I just Google him. I watched a few of his video's and liked what I saw, other than that I guess you have to pay to joing his website to learn what his teachings are about right side golf.

What makes Hogan's right foot slide? Well the basic answer would be force but the answer you are looking for in my own words has to be the right knee. I think once the rigth knee starts to fold the spikes are useless as the foot rolls in, but! Hogan knew this and was on a firm left leg. I think he tried to use the inner toe spikes later in the down swing so the foot did not slip, but could not fully because it would hinder the motion of the right hip "Humping The Goat as yall call it". So as he used the last little bit of leverage he had in the right foot or toe to keep from falling back right, the momentom of the everything pulls the foot foward just a little as he then proceed's to post on it for a balanced finish. I hope that helps, if you see something else I would love to hear.

Just to add a quick note for the left side crowd that feel Hogan might have pulled with the left, it is pretty hard on a firm left side to pull with the left. Just for laughts stand on you left leg and lean to the right and try to turn you left hip clear... The right foot, Right Knee, right hand push through - the right hip, right shoulder rotate through! IMO

I'd submit that there is one reason why his right foot slides . . . put your cursor on his left hip at addesss . . . watch where his body is when he finishes . . . Hogan's hips went farther forward than anybody that's ever laced 'em up. That foot is getting DRUG forward by the hip motion, thighs and spine . . . Greg Norman rocks it like that too.

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In the set of Hogan's photos that were used in the Life Magazine secret issue, Hogan played a shot standing on kind of mattress...From start up through delivery, you can see the left foot sinking more than the right foot...



It can be related to "The Hogan Way" book in which Mr. John Andrisani mentioned about a "story" Mike Austin told him about Hogan pivoting along the left leg and foot like Jay Broune...and of course, it is also presented in other way out of the book "Final missing piece of Hogan secret Puzzle" by VJ Trolio.

Regarding the siding, when I do the stepping drill, it is so easy to perform the right foot silde. If I push with the right side, it won't.

Just my 2 cents.
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Old 06-18-2009, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
I'd submit that there is one reason why his right foot slides . . . put your cursor on his left hip at addesss . . . watch where his body is when he finishes . . . Hogan's hips went farther forward than anybody that's ever laced 'em up. That foot is getting DRUG forward by the hip motion, thighs and spine . . . Greg Norman rocks it like that too.



This was a very big part of Knudsons teaching. For the right foot to slide, the weight must be left early. Also George really believed in the Three Stations, Address, Top and Finish. He would have a person stand in their Finish position and try to figure where it was uncomfortable for them. His reasoning was that it should be very comfortable or else your body wont go there. He then adjusted things, like the turn of the left foot at address for instance. The right foot drag takes a lot of stretch out of lower body for those that are less flexible and makes getting to Finish way easier and more comfortable.
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