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Old 06-16-2009, 09:08 PM
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In the set of Hogan's photos that were used in the Life Magazine secret issue, Hogan played a shot standing on kind of mattress...From start up through delivery, you can see the left foot sinking more than the right foot...



It can be related to "The Hogan Way" book in which Mr. John Andrisani mentioned about a "story" Mike Austin told him about Hogan pivoting along the left leg and foot like Jay Broune...and of course, it is also presented in other way out of the book "Final missing piece of Hogan secret Puzzle" by VJ Trolio.

Regarding the siding, when I do the stepping drill, it is so easy to perform the right foot silde. If I push with the right side, it won't.

Just my 2 cents.
Someone told me it was felt, kinda like whats under your shingles on a roof, they did not think it would tear up that easy.

I feel the step drill would be a great way to feel the slide, although I still think Hogan's foot slide came mostly from the right knee, right side drive. The right knee actualy drives the foot to its instep and as the right side rotation is being completed it moves the right knee closer to the left closing that gap and makes the right heel post as it supernates.

Also, I talked to a friend of yours that said you meet in Hong Kong and he told me you are a great guy, with all the video you wanta to watch..lol I would agree from what I have read and seen of your stuff.
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Old 06-16-2009, 11:30 PM
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Burley,

Which friend? Who said that I am a good guy, Ben? Paul? I am a hacker...lol

Anyway, from the book "Hogan by Curt Sampson", there is a quoted statement:-

"You know why I'm so goddamn good? I never move my right knee." -Ben Hogan to his caddy

Yes, I also read the book "Afternoon with Mr. Hogan" saying the secret is the right knee push toward the ball...but when I watch Mike Wright told the story that Hogan asked him to bend on the knee behind a girl helping her game, to hold her right knee during the swing, I have questions in my hacker's mind.

The right knee definitely move...another chicken and egg question....move or being moved?
The right side shall support the backward spin tilt, no doubt just like Bruce Lee kick...

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Old 06-17-2009, 12:43 AM
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Burley,

Which friend? Who said that I am a good guy, Ben? Paul? I am a hacker...lol

Anyway, from the book "Hogan by Curt Sampson", there is a quoted statement:-

"You know why I'm so goddamn good? I never move my right knee." -Ben Hogan to his caddy

Yes, I also read the book "Afternoon with Mr. Hogan" saying the secret is the right knee push toward the ball...but when I watch Mike Wright told the story that Hogan asked him to bend on the knee behind a girl helping her game, to hold her right knee during the swing, I have questions in my hacker's mind.

The right knee definitely move...another chicken and egg question....move or being moved?
The right side shall support the backward spin tilt, no doubt just like Bruce Lee kick...



It was Paul...! That Bruce Lee is a good one, great vid!

I have talked to Mike Wright about Hogan, I ran some of my thoughts by him before I finished my book and he liked what I had to say. Mike believes Hogan's biggest Secret was his club spec's and the fact he had so much Flex in his wrist. KOC, you know what I think Hogan's Secret was, if you want to call it that. You have read as much of my stuff as I have of yours and I have stayed pretty consistant to what I believe. The back of the right wrist is my thought and after hearing Mike and talking to him about it, then listing to what he had to say...

Back to the right knee though, there are so many ways to look at it and even in video its really more of an educated guess. I think we would both agree on the right knee kicked in @ address, almost straiting by the top, and then folding in on the down swing. Now, was he a rotary/Pusher? I think so!, but I also know that I could be wrong and if thats true, that would take everything I believe or have learned about his swing an distroy everything I think I know.
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Old 06-17-2009, 01:04 AM
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Burley,

Thanks for the information. I really appreciated that. Although here is a guy who live in the far east, we love the same guy...Mr. Ben Hogan.
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