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Old 01-10-2010, 01:35 PM
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What are you talking about man, thats a beautiful Hitters Pivot! Poetry in motion bud.
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Old 01-10-2010, 01:48 PM
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Try swinging two clubs held together standing completely on your left leg, with your right foot up on the toe and to the rear a bit.

As you swing, keep your eyes closed, imagine you are going to throw the clubs down the fairway, and step through with your right foot, as if you were going to walk after them. (which is a good way to start, go ahead and walk forward)

Let the weight of the two clubs pull you through, you'll feel you are really facing the target.
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Old 01-10-2010, 02:57 PM
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Kev, guys like you and I have some difficulty finding enough kinetic energy to get us completely through the swing.
I think the difference is that it might be a little easier for those guys that cast long shadows than it is for those of us that cast wide shadows.
Let's work on that tomorrow at the dome.
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Old 01-14-2010, 04:16 PM
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Kev, guys like you and I have some difficulty finding enough kinetic energy to get us completely through the swing.
I think the difference is that it might be a little easier for those guys that cast long shadows than it is for those of us that cast wide shadows.
Let's work on that tomorrow at the dome.
Jerry,

I've gone way past casting a wide shadow, now I just plain block the sun!

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Old 01-14-2010, 07:41 PM
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Old 01-16-2010, 09:35 AM
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I got an email from a respected member of LBG with another idea. 9 to 3 drills using only my pivot on the downstroke, no hands.

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Once you use your hands it shuts your body off.
Using this idea along with the other comments will make a huge difference. I hit as many balls as my back would allow yesterday, and really started to get the feel of using my pivot to get the club back up the plane after impact. What a great feeling, my compression had been improving, but this was a quantum leap.

Here is a picture of the same ugly swing I posted before, but this is at impact. Not terrible here, but it sure deteriorated fast! Immedately after this picture, my hands take over and flip, my body absolutely quits turning just as my anonymous friend pointed out.

Picture 1 (impact)


Picture 2 (FUGLY!)


Jerry is going to get me on film Monday at the dome, hopefully picture #2 will be very much improved. I'll still be fat though...

Thanks LEO!

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Old 01-16-2010, 09:47 AM
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I got an email from a respected member of LBG with another idea. 9 to 3 drills using only my pivot on the downstroke, no hands.



Using this idea along with the other comments will make a huge difference. I hit as many balls as my back would allow yesterday, and really started to get the feel of using my pivot to get the club back up the plane after impact. What a great feeling, my compression had been improving, but this was a quantum leap.

Here is a picture of the same ugly swing I posted before, but this is at impact. Not terrible here, but it sure deteriorated fast! Immedately after this picture, my hands take over and flip, my body absolutely quits turning just as my anonymous friend pointed out.

Picture 1 (impact)


Picture 2 (FUGLY!)


Jerry is going to get me on film Monday at the dome, hopefully picture #2 will be very much improved. I'll still be fat though...

Thanks LEO!

Kevin
Kevin,
I don't see much difference in your left foot position from the "fugly" picture. If my left foot was where your's is my body would quit as well.
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:34 PM
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Jerry is going to get me on film Monday at the dome, hopefully picture #2 will be very much improved. I'll still be fat though...

Kev,
I'm glad I saw this so I bring the camera. I'll bring the fish-eye lens.
To be fair, the photos shown are from this summer shortly after our time with Yoda. In October and especially last week your turn was much better. I believe you will be pleasantly surprised by what you see. The flared left foot will probably be icing on the cake.
As long as we're talking about cake, let's be sure to stop at the bakery when we finish. Something healthful--like carrot cake...
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Old 01-10-2010, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by EdZ View Post
Try swinging two clubs held together standing completely on your left leg, with your right foot up on the toe and to the rear a bit.

As you swing, keep your eyes closed, imagine you are going to throw the clubs down the fairway, and step through with your right foot, as if you were going to walk after them. (which is a good way to start, go ahead and walk forward)

Let the weight of the two clubs pull you through, you'll feel you are really facing the target.


I was thinking about that drill with the weight on the left side and the right foot on its toe and way back behind the line too .......although Ive never heard of the two clubs thing before, nice.

KEv when you do this drill ask your left knee (or back) if there is a reason it doesnt want to take the load? Is there a twisting left knee problem or a physical element to this or is it just a habit, plane and simple? If the left knee doesnt want you to load it and pivot over it , you wont, or cant even. Its a self preservation mechanism.

You cant turn very freely without the weight centered over one leg or the other. Pivoting around the middle with the weight centered and both feet planted/ loaded is really awkward (like a spinning Top with two points to turn around) and so the brain will command the body to back out of the shot as if it is selecting the less injurious leg around which to pivot regardless of any consequences to golf score or low point management or whatever.

Homer designated Finish as one of the Three Stations (Address, Top, Finish). Golf is a motion that makes its way through the Stations with no consideration for Impact. Let the Motion make the shot etc. But to do so, Finish has be a balanced and comfortable destination or the body wont want to go there. Pose at Finish and see what it feels like. Move things around to make it more comfortable if you have to. Like the Knudson/Hogan left foot flare and the right foot drag. I love the drag thing, it gives us old inflexible farts a little more range of motion through the shot. And If you are dragging that right foot, the weight must be left! With it left, turning will be as easy as it is for spinning top. The center of gravity and the axis of rotation in line (and over the left side). VJ Trolio style.

Hopefully its just a habit and not an physical thing.

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