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Old 01-14-2010, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by KevCarter View Post
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Part of the problem is the old body, knees, back, and lack of flexibility. Combine that with trying to be "pretty."

I had switched to Standard Knee action in an attempt to look like Mr. Hogan. With my inflexible, short backswing, my legs didn't have time to bend at start down, and then push and straighten through follow through. My right knee was still bending through impact, and my hips were backing up exactly as you saw.Going back to Right anchor, I skip the straightening then bending procedures, and am able to get pushing from the ground properly through impact.

I also need to work on my hand path, which should get better with my improved rotation. Flaring the left foot more has made a huge difference in taking the stress off my left knee and allowing some turn. In the pic of the bad swing, it's tough to see from that angle, but I never get the shaft back on plane after impact. Chasing it BIG TIME.

Lots of issues, which you would expect from someone who really hasn't played in 3 years...

Hopefully I'll get some new pictures up next week... feeling like my old self again.

Perfect example of needing to find a motion to fit ourselves, not a model.

Make sense Bucket?

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Witcha . . . that opening up of the left foot will let you go forward more too . . . Hogan had some pretty busted wheels too right? I'd say you could fix a lot of that off the course . . . mirror work type stuff . . . head in a door frame type stuff. You ain't gotta be perfect . . . just get lil' better and a lil' better and lil' more better over time. Rome wasn't built in a day and it takes a long time to cook pig shoulder to make it taste good.
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Old 01-14-2010, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Interesting stuff Bucket. Gonna try the bend and extend with the left knee and see what happens to the rest of the machine on video.

As an aside that last photo of Tiger and Hogan, which one looks likes it hurts? Hogan's right foot is de weighted , his body has rotated towards the hole, his hands are still in front of his body etc. Sort of like he's swinging the club and letting the club swing him too. Like Fred Astair dancing with a string mop. There is an efficiency and a harmony there.
Well . . . both had surgery on their leg . . . one from a wreck and the other from golf (unless it was from some extracurricular activity recently unearthed) . . . but I'd have to say Eldrick's knee wasn't done any favors by that swing. Who knows . . . I can't even spell gyrokologist.
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Witcha . . . that opening up of the left foot will let you go forward more too . . . Hogan had some pretty busted wheels too right? I'd say you could fix a lot of that off the course . . . mirror work type stuff . . . head in a door frame type stuff. You ain't gotta be perfect . . . just get lil' better and a lil' better and lil' more better over time. Rome wasn't built in a day and it takes a long time to cook pig shoulder to make it taste good.
Thanks Man, really appreciate your help and sharing of your expertise!

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Old 01-14-2010, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by EdZ View Post
Another suggestion to add to the previous ones, and one of my personal favorites as 'best simple drill ever'.

Hold your finish until the ball stops.
Thanks EDZ. No way to hold it if I don't get into a much more balanced alignment. Hold it and Look, Look, Look...

I really appreciate your ideas!

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Old 01-14-2010, 04:16 PM
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Kev, guys like you and I have some difficulty finding enough kinetic energy to get us completely through the swing.
I think the difference is that it might be a little easier for those guys that cast long shadows than it is for those of us that cast wide shadows.
Let's work on that tomorrow at the dome.
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I've gone way past casting a wide shadow, now I just plain block the sun!

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I got an email from a respected member of LBG with another idea. 9 to 3 drills using only my pivot on the downstroke, no hands.

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Once you use your hands it shuts your body off.
Using this idea along with the other comments will make a huge difference. I hit as many balls as my back would allow yesterday, and really started to get the feel of using my pivot to get the club back up the plane after impact. What a great feeling, my compression had been improving, but this was a quantum leap.

Here is a picture of the same ugly swing I posted before, but this is at impact. Not terrible here, but it sure deteriorated fast! Immedately after this picture, my hands take over and flip, my body absolutely quits turning just as my anonymous friend pointed out.

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Picture 2 (FUGLY!)


Jerry is going to get me on film Monday at the dome, hopefully picture #2 will be very much improved. I'll still be fat though...

Thanks LEO!

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Old 01-16-2010, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by KevCarter View Post
I got an email from a respected member of LBG with another idea. 9 to 3 drills using only my pivot on the downstroke, no hands.



Using this idea along with the other comments will make a huge difference. I hit as many balls as my back would allow yesterday, and really started to get the feel of using my pivot to get the club back up the plane after impact. What a great feeling, my compression had been improving, but this was a quantum leap.

Here is a picture of the same ugly swing I posted before, but this is at impact. Not terrible here, but it sure deteriorated fast! Immedately after this picture, my hands take over and flip, my body absolutely quits turning just as my anonymous friend pointed out.

Picture 1 (impact)


Picture 2 (FUGLY!)


Jerry is going to get me on film Monday at the dome, hopefully picture #2 will be very much improved. I'll still be fat though...

Thanks LEO!

Kevin
Kevin,
I don't see much difference in your left foot position from the "fugly" picture. If my left foot was where your's is my body would quit as well.
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Old 01-16-2010, 09:53 AM
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Kevin,
I don't see much difference in your left foot position from the "fugly" picture. If my left foot was where your's is my body would quit as well.
Nope, that's still part of the "before" swing. I haven't taped myself yet using the help you all have given me. The flared left foot you suggested is a HUGE part of what I am working hard at!

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Jerry is going to get me on film Monday at the dome, hopefully picture #2 will be very much improved. I'll still be fat though...

Kev,
I'm glad I saw this so I bring the camera. I'll bring the fish-eye lens.
To be fair, the photos shown are from this summer shortly after our time with Yoda. In October and especially last week your turn was much better. I believe you will be pleasantly surprised by what you see. The flared left foot will probably be icing on the cake.
As long as we're talking about cake, let's be sure to stop at the bakery when we finish. Something healthful--like carrot cake...
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