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Old 04-29-2010, 11:46 PM
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The difference between Hitting and Swinging eventually boils down to which force Uncocks the Left Wrist. The two forces available are Centrifugal Force and Muscular Effort.

KEY CONCEPTs:

1. Hitting and Swinging differ by which force moves the Secondary Lever (Golfclub).

2. ONLY the Right Arm Can Hit. A Swing are made with the Left Arm or the Right Arm.

One can only Hit if the Right Wrist remains LEVEL through the Release and Impact Intervals. If the Right Wrist is Cocked and subsequently Uncocks during these Intervals, then, no matter how much force is used or whether the Force is Right Triceps or Right Forearm Thrust or Both, the Stroke is a SWING.

With the Right Hand off the Club, look at the Left Wrist Uncocking, and readily see the Clubhead surface Speed Increasing. With the Right Hand and club only, with its Fixed Level Right Wrist, the Right Forearm and Club form a "single unified assembly". It doesn't Uncock. If you use Right Triceps Thrust (Acceleration) to drive this FIXED assembly, it is solely responsible for moving the Clubhead. Then, Uncocking the Left Wrist serves only to accommodate the Straightening of the Right Arm. Centrifugal Force is Avoided by using a Straight Line Thrust (The easiest way to avoid CF is by moving in a straight line) across the line.

So, to be a Hitter, or be considered a Hitter, the Level Right Wrist must remain Fixed. Ask the Golfer if he Cocks his Right Wrist. That's easy enough. That's the Acid test. If his Level Right Wrist Remains fixed, then your guess is as good as mine. If you Cock and Uncock the Right Wrist, you can be a Swinger, Switter (Combo Hitter-Swinger, bad), Flinger (Right Arm Swinger) or Dinger (you guessed it), but not a Hitter.



If he Cocks and Uncocks his Right Wrist, then he's a Swinger. Otherwise I can't tell from this sequence. Whether that's Forearm Driving as part of the Power Package for a Swinger, or Triceps muscle of a Hitter, I couldn't say. I can't even identify if he's using a sequenced or simultaneous release. I wish I knew enough to be sure one way or the other, but I don't.

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Old 04-30-2010, 09:37 AM
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Interesting stuff Daryl.

I see some Dragging in Startdown, he does not have a Hitters Top , he is not aligned for Drive Loading, interestingly. He is using his pivot and the Drag Loading Downswing Sequence of 6-M-1. But he appears to my eye to turn it over to his Right Arm for Release. A Right ARm Throw. The Bat. That slightly bent left arm near impact tells me his center is no longer the left shoulder but the right elbow. The chicken wing a blocking action in an effort to prevent the right side from overpowering the flat left wrist. Is he pushing or pulling with his right arm? Its close to Right Arm Swinging isnt it. But Id say pushing, final answer.

But like you I must admit that .............only his hair dresser knows for sure. And Arnie is the easy one too..............lets try Jack next.


D are you saying Swingers cock their Right Wrist? An off plane motion of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge?

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Old 04-30-2010, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Interesting stuff Daryl.
Interesting and true.



Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post

D are you saying Swingers cock their Right Wrist? An off plane motion of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge?

Swingers should not Cock their Right Wrist. No one should. I'm saying that anyone who does cock their Right Wrist can not be a Hitter, even if they think they are.

Swingers can get away with cocking their right wrist and still be called a swinger, but not hitters.

It doesn't matter if one Swings or Hits. Both are equally valid. Uncompensated stroke patters for both are included in Chapter 12. They are the goals.

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Old 05-09-2010, 10:34 AM
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Palmers "swing"
It doesn't seem that AP did a lot of instruction but he did one historic piece - A 2 - 33 rpm album with booklet labled "BY ARNOLD PALMER ...NARRATED WITH CHRIS SCHENKEL" this was a promo by Ford Motor Co. and contains a "good" instructional presentation on the Golf swing in palmers own voice. This is likely the best description of what he does. My copy is in the atic and I no longer have a turntable set up so I won't look for it now. If one of you historians has a copy and listens/reads this album As I recall U will get a lot of clues as to palmers "swing".

The Bear

PS. There was a tv program called CHALLENGE GOLF in the early 60's. One epesode at Torrey Pines with Palmer, Player, Sneed and Sanders . I "Kind of" used that show as a comparitive model because TP was one of my local courses in my early golfing years. I would like to refind that show on dvd or tape.

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