You had me focused until the last picture. I'm not sure what the paragraph said there, but I agree with all of the diagrams above, so I'll just assume everything else was correct.
Personally, I think the OP is a swinger that needs some fix'in for a quick start down and out instead of down plane right shoulder.
It's tough to convert a swinger to a hitter. Been there done that.
It's a commitment and takes a lot of time to convert. It is nice to hit when needed though.
I started out as a swinger but I am not built for it.
I'm 6'5 285 and very muscular and not exactly the most flexible person in the world. I failed all but one portion of the TPI Flexibility test.
I have gotten a lot more flexible but I don't think swinging is in the cards for me.
I have all the time in the world (job not doing shit right now) so I can literally practice for 8 hours per day if necessary.
I just need to start getting these things squared away.
If I am understanding you correctly what you are saying is:
1: My back swing is too flat.
Your Backstroke is Aroundish.
I am on the elbow plane going back
Kind of, but that's irrelevant.
and my over the top move is an attempt to get up to the TSP.
No. Your over the top move is caused by your hips and shoulder alignment.
2: I need to focus on getting my shoulders to move vertically in both directions.
No. You need to stop going aroundish and use the Plane Line.
3: I'm too flat with the shoulders going back. Yes.
4: I'm over the top because I'm attempting to not be too flat going forwards.
You're over the Top because your shoulders and hips are aligned that way.
All that I'm asking you to do is to get into your address position without a club. Then, move your right foot back (away from the target line) a few inches or more. This will move your right hip out of the way so that your shoulders can turn without going around. Your spine will not move or sway or tilt. Your head should remain stationary. Lastly, move your hands to your right and up. Try to trace the Plane line.
This will re-align your shoulders and Hips and you will no longer come over the top.
What do you guys think about that idea for a swing thought? What swing thoughts do you guys use?
How much time do we have?
But seriously now folks.........Im all right sided in my swing thoughts. I get in trouble when I start thinking about left sided things. Left hand wrist cock thoughts are my ruin. Maybe that is just me though.
Somewhere in the book Homer discusses how the Right Side centric view of the swing and the Left have very different "appearances". Cant find it for a reference but its a great note. I personally prefer the right sided ones.
Grant if you're Hitting try chipping and doing little pitches with just your Right Arm attached to the club. For me it is a great warm up and exercise in what the fundamentals or basics of my stroke are. Load the elbow, freeze the right hand, on plane right forearm, direct the thrust and the trace or aiming point with the #3 lag pressure point, fan and bend, get to Both Arms Straight, etc etc etc.
I try to limit mine, and I guess your mind will really only allow you to process 1 at a time...but here is what Ive been using.
1) STEADY HEAD! (always #1!)
2) trace the plane line (at least attempt to get close to it
3)drive w/ PP #1, as I "sense" #3
These are interchangeable w/ the following....but I try to use a max of 3 before any swing.
4) hula,hula (if Im not pivoting correctly)
5) aiming point (in front for irons at the ball for driver)
6) cross line delivery
7) SLOW DOWN frozen wrists
9) both arms straight on f.t.
Grant you're under the Plane at Top .........which will often tend to bounce you back over the Plane in Startdown. It may be Right Elbow position. Research what Lynn calls the "goal posts". Probably on video more than in a Yoda post Id imagine. I think it'll help you a lot.
And maybe research "geometrically flat" left wrist at Top as opposed to literally flat, which is often achieved via an off plane left hand wrist cock. Something Tiger is struggling with so you're in good company. Ideally the club lies on the inclined Plane at Top........ but the Left ARm doesnt, cant, its above the Inclined Plane, given any #3 angle in the grip. "Flat" at top is not "literally" flat given a 10-2-B grip type.
And maybe research "geometrically flat" left wrist at Top as opposed to literally flat, which is often achieved via an off plane left hand wrist cock. Something Tiger is struggling with so you're in good company. Ideally the club lies on the inclined Plane at Top........ but the Left ARm doesnt, cant, its above the Inclined Plane, given any #3 angle in the grip. "Flat" at top is not "literally" flat given a 10-2-B grip type.
I can't agree with that. The Flat Left Wrist should be Literally Flat at the Top. The Back of the Left Wrist doesn't lay against the Plane but the Palm of the Right Hand and the #3 PP does lay against the Plane.
frozen wrists
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