really?
I had not seen the "chanting all over the web".
in facct- I have neither heard nor read anything on the subject.
These are my original thoughts. From my personal observations. (on TV )
BUT
I remain;
The "clueless" Bear
You expressed your opinion, I expressed mine. I have no desire to argue further.
Kevin
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I could be wrong. I have been before, and will be again.
The issue-to me- is not the rule but the method.
There were 2 options.
1- do not confront the player and leave him to sign his card at his own peril
2- Inform the player AND provide complete and dcisive information as to any rule violation.
The problem is that the player did not seem able to make a informed decision. And I don't think anyone known if a rule was in fact violated. No mater how it is spun.
The issue-to me- is not the rule but the method.
There were 2 options.
1- do not confront the player and leave him to sign his card at his own peril
2- Inform the player AND provide complete and dcisive information as to any rule violation.
The problem is that the player did not seem able to make a informed decision. And I don't think anyone known if a rule was in fact violated. No mater how it is spun.
Perfect, lets do idea number one, let him sign his card, then we'll have to DQ him and cost DJ about $500,000.00. Makes good sense.
#2 is exactly how it was handled, good job there, where is the quibbling and spin?
I agree with Dodger, very tough ruling, but it is what it is. The officials had no choice but to apply the penalty.
Kevin
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I could be wrong. I have been before, and will be again.
I did not like the way it played out, but once the official explained their stance, I understood and accepted the decision. I don't like it, but I understand it.
I think it was very fortunate they talked to the competitor prior to his signature on the card. It preserved his place in the event and salvaged very good pay day.
Last edited by JerryG : 08-15-2010 at 11:32 PM.
Reason: grammar, context, etc.
Its all very unfortunate but it played out as it needed to given the local rule.
Its a shame that a design esthetic could contribute to such confusion. The course though entirely man made and perhaps a little over the top in its art direction was spectacular to my North American eye. The inspiration for the bunkering design is not from any man made bunkers but from the work of sheep.
And so, Gents, local rules aside, .........I need a ruling.
This is a course I played a few weeks back , Brora in the north of Scotland. Designed by James Braid , sheep and cows wander the course, the greens are surrounded by electric fences , it has bunkers as we know them and then these ones. Freshly made, this one by the fella at the top of the frame who had been resting in it until I spooked him and he left.
If my ball was to come to rest in this "bunker" ......should I considered it a hazard?
P.S. I know this is beside the point as far as Dustin is concerned but I couldnt help but think back to this course and wonder whether James Braid would have grounded his club.
Its all very unfortunate but it played out as it needed to given the local rule.
Its a shame that a design esthetic could contribute to such confusion. The course though entirely man made and perhaps a little over the top in its art direction was spectacular to my North American eye. The inspiration for the bunkering design is not from any man made bunkers but from the work of sheep.
And so, Gents, local rules aside, .........I need a ruling.
This is a course I played a few weeks back , Brora in the north of Scotland. Designed by James Braid , sheep and cows wander the course, the greens are surrounded by electric fences , it has bunkers as we know them and then these ones. Freshly made, this one by the fella at the top of the frame who had been resting in it until I spooked him and he left.
If my ball was to come to rest in this "bunker" ......should I considered it a hazard?
P.S. I know this is beside the point as far as Dustin is concerned but I couldnt help but think back to this course and wonder whether James Braid would have grounded his club.
The "local rules" distinction seems analogous to the "Enumerated Powers" given to Congress in Article 1 of the Constitution while limited by the Bill of Rights. (Congress is just a local golf tournament while the Bill of Rights is the PGA/USGA! Make it so LORD! )
There are usually "local rules" in any tournament. Touring golf pros understand the importance of those rules and amazingly, abide by those rules week after week on tours all over the world.
I have been to the sand dunes of Indiana and Wisconsin, and all around Lake Michigan and Lake Superior. I thought the young golfer was hitting off a sand dune. I thought it was very decent of the PGA folks to stop him from signing an incorrect score card and losing so much cash!
I played at Carnoustie many years ago with a Wednesday group of pensioners. They had a local rule about only charging each other one shot as the balls rolled into the water on the 18th fairway. Not only did I shoot a 98 but I lost 6 balls on that hole!
They did buy the pints later, though!
Patrick
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
And so, Gents, local rules aside, .........I need a ruling.
......... Brora in the north of Scotland. Designed by James Braid , sheep and cows wander the course, the greens are surrounded by electric fences , ..................
no they didn't. he should have never been over there in the first place. maybe this is why we high handicappers do not get any better. So much instruction on proper plane...no instructions on the rules and proper course management. If im Dustins or Bubbas caddy...they are hitting an iron. I would have told them both your not fucking up my check today. hit the damn iron in the fairway. geez they hit 5 iron well over 230 what the hell were they thinking. Cant remember who Breeder was interviewing Friday... but he said that the problem with the new generation is they do not know how to manage their ball. And he was right. As well as my father. Golf is a thinking mans/women sport. idiots need not apply. iron,iron, two putt victory! that's what the guest Breeder interviewed said! And what did Dustin do...I screamed when he chose driver. But the media will make a big fuss about the rules and how they are stupid (no articles about a weak caddy...hell they could have let him sign the wrong scorecard and he would have won jack! The PGA did him a favor. He at least got the fed ex points and a check, Dustin should be sending the officials some money and a thank you note! And handing his caddy a pink slip. But he still hit the shot...Whew. Sorry for the rant... that was hard to watch.
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