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Old 10-17-2010, 02:30 PM
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With fear and trepidation, I venture to ask a question about hinge action. Forgive me Daryl if this is the wrong thread to ask this question!

Can some one describe the relationship of the right and left arm flying wedges to hinging? Is hinging another way to describe the movement of the arms from impact to end point (both arms straight)?

I ask this question because, given the discussion in this thread, it seems to me that hinging is much complicated than simply the closing or the laying off of the clubhead through impact. I have heard many people talk about closing the club face, e.g., by rolling the forearms or rolling the wrists, but those "methods" don't seem to be getting at hinging, or at least, not at a full description of what is going on with hinging mechanically.
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Old 10-17-2010, 03:26 PM
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With fear and trepidation, I venture to ask a question about hinge action. Forgive me Daryl if this is the wrong thread to ask this question!

Can some one describe the relationship of the right and left arm flying wedges to hinging? Is hinging another way to describe the movement of the arms from impact to end point (both arms straight)?

I ask this question because, given the discussion in this thread, it seems to me that hinging is much complicated than simply the closing or the laying off of the clubhead through impact. I have heard many people talk about closing the club face, e.g., by rolling the forearms or rolling the wrists, but those "methods" don't seem to be getting at hinging, or at least, not at a full description of what is going on with hinging mechanically.

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Wiki answer follows:

The Flying Wedges are at Right Angles to each other. The LAFW aligned to plane of the left wrist cock , a purely perpendicular or vertical to the ground plane of left hand motion. The RFFW to the plane of the right hand bend a pure horizontal plane of right hand motion. (Gotta read 6-B-3-0-1 and 4-B-0 Perpendicular vs 4-A-0 Bent). Another way of thinking about this ......somewhat simplified ......imagine a thin line of tape running up the top of the shaft and another running up the aft of the shaft. These strips of tape representing the two planes of the Flying Wedges and where they intersect with the shaft. They are 90 degrees to each other when viewing the butt end of the shaft in section. K?

So lets say we're a Horizontal Hinger and we're in our downswing, we've slid the left hand, palm down to the inclined plane to our Release Point. The left hand starts to come off the inclined plane (release swivel) it swivels over to an aligned to the Horizontal Basic Plane position. All the while as goes the left hand so goes the LAFW and also the RFFW. So the wedges are rotating too , all the while maintaining their at right angles to each other relationship. Then we Hinge Through impact, the left hand remaining perpendicular to the Horizontal Basic Plane (the ground) Then after Both Arms straight we swivel the left hand back onto the Inclined Plane. The wedges rolling along with it and all the while maintaining their own separate alignments and relationship to each other.

Thats my take on things, Id welcome any corrections to this, treat it as a Wiki answer.....whoever feels so inclined please fix it.

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Old 10-17-2010, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rprevost View Post
With fear and trepidation, I venture to ask a question about hinge action. Forgive me Daryl if this is the wrong thread to ask this question!

Can some one describe the relationship of the right and left arm flying wedges to hinging? Is hinging another way to describe the movement of the arms from impact to end point (both arms straight)?
I think that it's an excellent question.

The Left Arm Wedge is going to be Hinged through the Impact Interval.

The Hinge will be located at the Left Shoulder.

The Alignment of the Paddlewheel Motion of the Right Forearm Wedge will determine the Alignment of the Hinge (i.e. Angled, Horizontal).

If the Right Forearm/Hand Paddlewheels about an axis that's perpendicular to the Horizontal Plane, then the Hinge Pin will be Perpendicular to the Horizontal Plane. Horizontal Hinging.

If the Right Forearm/Hand Paddlewheels about an axis that's perpendicular to the Angled Plane, then the Hinge Pin will be Perpendicular to the Angled Plane. Angled Hinging.

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You have TWO CHOICES: Hinge Through Impact or Swivel Through Impact.

If you Force the Left Wrist to Roll Through the Impact Interval, by Rolling it with the Left Arm or Wrist or Forearm Muscles, then the Right Hand will also Roll. That is Swiveling. Both Hands are rotating Counterclockwise. You are Rolling the Center of Gravity of the Clubhead and Clubface Alignment will be erratic. The Clubface will Close and Hood.

When you use the Paddlewheel Action of the Right Forearm and Hand to Roll the Left Wrist Through the Impact Interval, you are Hinging. The Left Hand Rotates Counterclockwise but the Right Hand does not. You are Rotating the Clubface in Alignment of the Hinge. The Clubface will Close Only.


One last point if I may:

When Pressure is applied to the #3 Pressure Point, then the Right Forearm will perform the Rotational Requirements of the pre-selected Hinge Action. Without #3 Pressure Point Pressure, the Right Forearm Flying Wedge cannot exert its influence on the Left Arm Wedge. But, although the Rotational Motion may exist and the Left Arm will be influenced by that motion, it won't have the "Hard Snap Roll" of Horizontal Hinging through and after impact. Its a softer sort of Roll and it will be influenced by Impact Deceleration.
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Old 10-17-2010, 10:02 PM
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Bravo!

That was a mind blowing explanation of hinge action Daryl.



If Innercityteacher doesn't learn one or two things TGM related from that post I'm afraid you will have to lower your goals.
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