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Old 11-13-2010, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BerntR View Post
Innercityteacher,

1) I push mostly on pp#1 initially. There will be more pp#3 towards the ball of course.

But remember we're talking about educated hands here, they know where they need to go and how to get there.

Then there's a "catch me if you can" game between the driveloading and the pivot. A game that the driveloading should never win in my stroke pattern. It catches up with some of the pivot lag but it never overtakes the pivot lag pressure. The lag pressure from the rope handling is maxed at impact.

1.5) Monitoring:

Impact is in the spotligth of my monitoring system. It's in the middle of my mind all the time. The further away from the ball, the more blurred the monitoring is. In two ways. More focus on the impact zone than the transition and follow thru, and more focus on the club than the hands. And more focus on the hands than other body parts. The hands are possible the most important monitoring device.

This is certainly an area of shades of gray and semantic traps. It is very easy to get reductionistic when discussing this topic, too easy to paint the dark grey parts black and omit the lighter gray parts altogether. The brain works in hierarcic ways. I believe you can basically monitor everything that conserns your golf stroke in real time. Further I believe that good players have greater awareness (monitoring skills + intuitive understanding) of what happens in their stroke than the rest of us.

2) Distance hasn't anything to do with my issue with offset. The offset carries an illusion of a closed clubface that is really disturbing to me when I stand over the ball. I see the shot better with a clean leading edge.

The offset also carries a small amount of added loft but that part is insignificant to me.
I agree with you 1.5. The problem for me is, I have to be very, very careful that "monitoring" doesn't turn into "directing". That is my pitfall. Trying to direct all the actions versus making a good, athletic move with the end in mind...you just can't think your way through the half second of down, out and forward. You can feel it, though.
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Old 11-14-2010, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by brianmontgomery2000 View Post
I agree with you 1.5. The problem for me is, I have to be very, very careful that "monitoring" doesn't turn into "directing". That is my pitfall. Trying to direct all the actions versus making a good, athletic move with the end in mind...you just can't think your way through the half second of down, out and forward. You can feel it, though.
More ZB stuff. With a stable head and proper set-up, RFT/EA will do the trick. I'm liking the BRW lead of the club back though, a lot!

There is no way I can flick my #3 PP back (and simultaneously trace the BLP, LOOK, LOOK, LOOK) and not generate massive LAG for my elbow thrust to use.

Distances are messed up in a good way. All I'm doing when Hitting is TRACING BLP with # 3 PP to my shoulder (smoother is better), Thrusting (Punching) DOWN, and making sure my ball is slightly ahead of my belt buckle. I can sweep the shots too with Standard Address.
PW -130 yards carry and rolls, Hitting, and more Sweeping/Swinging
9 - 140 " " "
8 - 150+ "
7 - 160 +
6 - close to the 175 yard fence and 5 and 4 irons are into the fence on the fly! The sound is very cool, too.

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Old 11-14-2010, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by innercityteacher View Post
More ZB stuff. With a stable head and proper set-up, RFT/EA will do the trick. I'm liking the BRW lead of the club back though, a lot!

There is no way I can flick my #3 PP back (and simultaneously trace the BLP, LOOK, LOOK, LOOK) and not generate massive LAG for my elbow thrust to use.

Distances are messed up in a good way. All I'm doing when Hitting is TRACING BLP with # 3 PP to my shoulder (smoother is better), Thrusting (Punching) DOWN, and making sure my ball is slightly ahead of my belt buckle. I can sweep the shots too with Standard Address.
PW -130 yards carry and rolls, Hitting, and more Sweeping/Swinging
9 - 140 " " "
8 - 150+ "
7 - 160 +
6 - close to the 175 yard fence and 5 and 4 irons are into the fence on the fly! The sound is very cool, too.

ICT
Believe it or not, your old irons being +1.5" longer than standard may have hurt your distance. SOP says that the longer the shaft, the further you should hit it, but not when the extra length was robbing you of a solid, centered strike. I should have looked at how your old clubs fit you while you were here, we could have sped up the process of your improvement.

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Old 11-14-2010, 11:58 AM
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I'll certainly agree with your there, Kev. I'm not so sure we shouldn't err to the shorter side of things rather than the longer.
I have a friend always looking for an increase in distance and his scores continue to stay the same or get worse due to his loss of accuracy.
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Old 11-14-2010, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by innercityteacher View Post
More ZB stuff. With a stable head and proper set-up, RFT/EA will do the trick. I'm liking the BRW lead of the club back though, a lot!

There is no way I can flick my #3 PP back (and simultaneously trace the BLP, LOOK, LOOK, LOOK) and not generate massive LAG for my elbow thrust to use.

Distances are messed up in a good way. All I'm doing when Hitting is TRACING BLP with # 3 PP to my shoulder (smoother is better), Thrusting (Punching) DOWN, and making sure my ball is slightly ahead of my belt buckle. I can sweep the shots too with Standard Address.
PW -130 yards carry and rolls, Hitting, and more Sweeping/Swinging
9 - 140 " " "
8 - 150+ "
7 - 160 +
6 - close to the 175 yard fence and 5 and 4 irons are into the fence on the fly! The sound is very cool, too.

ICT
Okay, Teach, need a cheat sheet...

ZB?

RFT - Right Forearm Tracing
EA - Ext. Action
BRW - Bent Right Wrist
BLP - Base Line Plane?
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Old 11-15-2010, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by innercityteacher View Post
More ZB stuff. With a stable head and proper set-up, RFT/EA will do the trick. I'm liking the BRW lead of the club back though, a lot!

There is no way I can flick my #3 PP back (and simultaneously trace the BLP, LOOK, LOOK, LOOK) and not generate massive LAG for my elbow thrust to use.

ICT
think i get most of this ICT but flick my #3 PP back
would you explain what you mean here ? thanks
i know what #3 pp is btw just not sure what you are feeling/doing with it
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Old 11-15-2010, 01:31 PM
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OK, here we go...
Originally Posted by tim chapman View Post
think i get most of this ICT but flick my #3 PP back
would you explain what you mean here ? thanks
i know what #3 pp is btw just not sure what you are feeling/doing with it
When you bend your right wrist back, your # 3 PP point to the base line of the plane if your right arm is aligned on plane. If you do it quickly, one might call it a "flick." DO IT SLOWLY AND FEE AS IF THAT PP IS LEADING YOUR RIGHT ARM UP PLANE. Let me know if this helps or if my imbalances are adversely effecting your imbalances.

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Distances are messed up in a good way. All I'm doing when Hitting is TRACING BLP with # 3 PP to my shoulder (smoother is better), Thrusting (Punching) DOWN, and making sure my ball is slightly ahead of my belt buckle. I can sweep the shots too with Standard Address.
PW -130 yards carry and rolls, Hitting, and more Sweeping/Swinging
9 - 140 " " "
8 - 150+ "
7 - 160 +
6 - close to the 175 yard fence and 5 and 4 irons are into the fence on the fly! The sound is very cool, too.

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Holy buckets, City, are sure your driving range isn't an empty parking lot? Those are some prodigious yardages.
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Old 11-15-2010, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryG View Post
Distances are messed up in a good way. All I'm doing when Hitting is TRACING BLP with # 3 PP to my shoulder (smoother is better), Thrusting (Punching) DOWN, and making sure my ball is slightly ahead of my belt buckle. I can sweep the shots too with Standard Address.
PW -130 yards carry and rolls, Hitting, and more Sweeping/Swinging
9 - 140 " " "
8 - 150+ "
7 - 160 +
6 - close to the 175 yard fence and 5 and 4 irons are into the fence on the fly! The sound is very cool, too.

ICT


Holy buckets, City, are sure your driving range isn't an empty parking lot? Those are some prodigious yardages.[/quote]

I am punching down on the ball with about 90% of my weight into my Hula! I throw the # 3 PP back and up Plane and then crush that pebble by driving my forearm into it! My ball position is really back towards my (ample) middle.
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