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Old 12-13-2011, 05:56 PM
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That discussion is from 2006, the video I posted is from last yr. I watched him quite a while on the range at the 2001 US Open and he was Swinging back then. I seriously doubt he switched from Swinging in 2001 to Hitting in 2006 and then back again.

At any rate, it is very clear that he is spinning the flywheel in the 2010 video.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:31 AM
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No, it's pretty clear that he is a Turned Shoulder Plane Swinger

To my highly untrianed eye, it looks like his right arm blasts off in the video. But, you'd have to ask him.
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Old 04-23-2012, 02:34 PM
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To my highly untrianed eye, it looks like his right arm blasts off in the video. But, you'd have to ask him.
Freeze it at :09 - the right shoulder appears to me to be continuing to drive down-plane at that point and beyond. If so, and he fires the right tricep there as you suggest, he would have to be Switting.
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:43 AM
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Freeze it at :09 - the right shoulder appears to me to be continuing to drive down-plane at that point and beyond. If so, and he fires the right tricep there as you suggest, he would have to be Switting.
No player, other than a 40+ hdcp., has the shoulder stop. When you look at the 3-D models instead of making assumptions in watching 2-D video, there are periods of acceleration and deceleration in every segment. When the arm accelerates off of the shoulder, the arm can cause the shoulder to rapidly decelerate but not stop. Just because something is moving doesn't mean that it's not slowing down.

When a major league pitcher throws a ball, the shoulder doesn't stop when the arm begins to throw. It's a faulty assumption to believe that a Hitter's shoulder can't continue down-plane.

Some of us use 4 barrels. And, Homer said it was possible for Hitting.
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No player, other than a 40+ hdcp., has the shoulder stop. When you look at the 3-D models instead of making assumptions in watching 2-D video, there are periods of acceleration and deceleration in every segment. When the arm accelerates off of the shoulder, the arm can cause the shoulder to rapidly decelerate but not stop. Just because something is moving doesn't mean that it's not slowing down.

When a major league pitcher throws a ball, the shoulder doesn't stop when the arm begins to throw. It's a faulty assumption to believe that a Hitter's shoulder can't continue down-plane.

Some of us use 4 barrels. And, Homer said it was possible for Hitting.
Good post junebug....agreed many have a caricatured view of what hitting "looks like" and how it "works"...as if somehow the hitter don't pivot....I will always remember your quote..."Is it easier to push a cannon ball that is still or one that is rolling?" what alignments do you focus on when determining if a player may be hitting vs. swinging?
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Old 04-24-2012, 02:36 PM
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No player, other than a 40+ hdcp., has the shoulder stop. When you look at the 3-D models instead of making assumptions in watching 2-D video, there are periods of acceleration and deceleration in every segment. When the arm accelerates off of the shoulder, the arm can cause the shoulder to rapidly decelerate but not stop. Just because something is moving doesn't mean that it's not slowing down.

When a major league pitcher throws a ball, the shoulder doesn't stop when the arm begins to throw. It's a faulty assumption to believe that a Hitter's shoulder can't continue down-plane.

Some of us use 4 barrels. And, Homer said it was possible for Hitting.
I said, "it looks as if the right shoulder appears to be continuing to drive down plane". I did not say or imply, that it stops or doesn't move down plane when Hitting.

When something is moving and continues on at the same rate, then it's probably not slowing down.

I'm proud to say I've never made that assumption!

Yes, but instead of cranking against the right shoulder from the top, the right shoulder drives down plane a bit before firing the right tricep, after which, it is pulled down plane by the hands. So it moves down plane, first driven and then pulled. I don't think Appleby is in the "some of us" club, but others may see it differently.
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