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Old 12-30-2011, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by danattherock View Post
Any suggestions for how to do this? Meaning, what part of my body do I change. I feel I am coming from the inside, dropping down, etc.. Just not sure how to get that shoulder turning toward the ball. I am wanting to focus on this as it was brought up in the lesson, but I failed to improve on it. We worked on many things, but this one gave me trouble. Want to hit the range as we are off the next three days. This move is on the top of my to improve list. Frame 7 above. Hate it. How do I get my shoulders moving toward the ball rather than sliding under the plane line?



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Dan...you're from Alaska or somewhere that 30 degrees ain't cold right? ....this should look familiar....

This is a two part move...Right Shoulder OUT to the PLANE LINE...and UP...out up...so in your frame 7...the right shoulder is moving down and under...there by not out enough and not far enough forward either...compromising your "over release" and you hitting the ground in front of the ball.

The hockey part is to get you to see how the motion of the right shoulder is supporting the motion of the right arm...the right shoulder has to move out to the ball so you got something to push against...
this is a right sided affair....split your hands on the grip like a hockey stick .... you'll note how your right forearm will want to align to PUSH....you are then gonna take your stick/golf club back like your boy Eddie has shown you steep shoulder turn...from there you are using your right shoulder to drive OUT to the target line .... if you split your hands it will help you get the feel for what your right forearm, right elbow and right shoulder gotta do to hit the puck ...ball....obviously you ain't trying to hit behind the ball....but it is a similar motion...your right shoulder is not lacking in the "downward" diminsion...it is lacking in the OUTWARD diminsion....

If you look at your frame 7 vs. the Kang....if you had a flashlight in the buttcap of the club...the Kang's flash light would be shining between his peter and his left hip...your flash light is kinda shining out to the right and up in to the air...so the handle/buttcap needs to be working to looking back at your left hip and pecker-ish area so the sweetspot/clubhead/clubface can work OUT to the ball supported by your right shoulder....check the hockey cat..handle end of the stick working into him...right forearm pushing the blade out to the puck...scoooooore.



we want your right shoulder going more OUT AND UP rather than down/back and underneath....so you need to feel like there is a tree or something right up next to and outside of your left leg and foot...you want to take your sternum and belly and right shoulder UP THAT TREE....

it's gonna be like you are flying like Superman with your chest expanded STRAIGHT UP THAT TREE!!!

So flip this image vertical....imagine he is trying to get as much of his chest as he can UP THE TREE...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&fe...&v=VqeFYhPYQ2Q

You want to feel like your are getting your right shoulder OUT OVER and UP on top the ball that you are litteral going to TOP IT with your pivot (chest, sternum right shoulder, solar plexus thingie)...So you are gonna feel like your right shoulder stays HIGH and left shoulder stays LOW...and from the top the right shoulder turns OVER the left arm staying HIGH...but your are pushing your chest UP THE TREE AS YOU TURN over...cadence..OUT UP...OUT UP ...right shoulder feels out and over...chest and belly feel UP the tree.

you'll see it here as this cat LAUNCHES the discus...note to power the discus ...that thing is heavy so he keeps the mass BELOW his right shoulder and chest...then he uses the ground and the expansion of his chest hips and spine to move his chest UP THE TREE with the right shoulder MOVING OUT...not "underneath the discus"....the right shoulder's trajectory is out over the discus and the chest is expanding up from the ground as the right shoulder moves out...if his right shoulder were moving like yours...that discus would get launched like a high pop fly out to the right because the right shoulder would be working too down and an under the mass rather that on top and over the mass with the legs and chest expanding up the tree forward from the ground...



Another thing...are you "trying" to SEE the ball when you hit it? You need to be out and up outta dodge so fast that you don't see the ball...your hands know where the ball is...get on up outta there ala Duval...



I promise you he ain't seeing the ball...he's getting his pivot up the tree and to the target...
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:09 AM
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Wow, good stuff.

Sounding like a cat I know down in Tucson, left shoulder low, right shoulder high, push up through the ball.

Hands in backswing, clubhead out, sweatspot over and out downswing.

The right shoulder out is the most difficult part. Hogan, Palmer, Duval, Trevino, did this better than most.
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Old 12-31-2011, 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
Dan...you're from Alaska or somewhere that 30 degrees ain't cold right? ....this should look familiar....
Nah, I am a NC boy. My wife and I worked in Alaska for 2 years and we get up there a few times a year fishing and floating rivers.



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the right shoulder has to move out to the ball so you got something to push against...
That makes a lot of sense. Still trying to figure out how to make it happen. Meaning, the actual move, trigger, etc... that facilitates the move. I will get it, just a matter of when. Thanks for the ongoing advice and encouragement. Going to hit range balls tomorrow. So excited I can't sleep.



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Old 12-31-2011, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by danattherock View Post
Nah, I am a NC boy. My wife and I worked in Alaska for 2 years and we get up there a few times a year fishing and floating rivers.





That makes a lot of sense. Still trying to figure out how to make it happen. Meaning, the actual move, trigger, etc... that facilitates the move. I will get it, just a matter of when. Thanks for the ongoing advice and encouragement. Going to hit range balls tomorrow. So excited I can't sleep.



-Dan
Dan....even though it's the right shoulder that controls the geometry...you are in control of the procedures and the feels....so try this one on...

LEFT SHOULDER LOW AND AROUND .......THAT ONE GET'S ME OUTTA THE RIGHT SHOULDER DROP UNDERNEATH SWINGING RELEASE FUNK....
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