Secondly, the pressure felt at PP#3 is the direct substitute for the lagging sweetspot, which is used to hit the direct substitute for the ball, the Aiming Point. HK is very clear on how to use Aiming Point on p83: "At the top of the Backstroke--even at the End(10-21-C)--mentally construct a line from the #3 Pressure Point to the Aiming Point. Let a careful Downstroke direct the pressure precisely along this line. Hitting or Swinging, direct the #3 Pressure Point strongly downward..." You do not manipulate the hand path to visually continue toward the Aiming Point down that mentally constructed straight line, but direct it with the pivot or right triceps from the top, in the direction indicated by that straight line, as if the pressure in PP#3 were free to move directly down that line, and then let the hands go wherever the thrust force takes them, mindful of tracing the Plane Line with PP#3. The later the release of #2, the straighter the hand path will be.
Now, if I understand this correctly, Instead of a laboriously slow drag of PP # 3 to the Aiming Point (powerful but only to a point since I am controlling the beast), I figure out the spoke or straight line from the AP and explode at it or DOWN the Line or Spoke, letting everything "all hang out."
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We don't have to assume that the aiming point is always in front of the ball.....In my motion I actually feel like the aiming point on the plane line is about 2 feet BACK of the ball...hands/club seeking out the ground and pivot seeking out the target ... if your left shoulder doesn't move at all from the top the hands/club will crash the ground WELL behind the ball...pivot can bring the hands forward in order to get low point in the correct spot for the shot at hand....
I don't see how the hands can be moving down at impact...they could feel that way...but how could they if we assume rhythm? Assuming the same rpm would they not have to be moving up?
We don't have to assume that the aiming point is always in front of the ball.....In my motion I actually feel like the aiming point on the plane line is about 2 feet BACK of the ball...hands/club seeking out the ground and pivot seeking out the target ... if your left shoulder doesn't move at all from the top the hands/club will crash the ground WELL behind the ball...pivot can bring the hands forward in order to get low point in the correct spot for the shot at hand....
I don't see how the hands can be moving down at impact...they could feel that way...but how could they if we assume rhythm? Assuming the same rpm would they not have to be moving up?
I thought this might confirm some of the things observed here. I have learned a lot and enjoy the polite exchange.
Once you've determined your Fix alignments, the Aiming Point (6-E-2)replaces the Ball. You now direct the Lag Loading (7-19) of the #3 PressurePoint at the Aiming Point as if it were the Ball. This Aiming Pointcan only be determined by experience (Practice!) only. And you will need tolearn how to direct your Thrust precisely at that point once you've learnedwhere it is.
The way to do that is explained in 6-E-2-1. At the Top, you mentally constructa line from the first joint of your Right Forefinger (#3 Pressure Point /6-C-1-3) to the Aiming Point. This becomes your Delivery Path (10-23-A or10-23-C). Practicing in slow motion -- first without a Club; then with a Clubbut no Ball -- you let a careful Downstroke Pivot (On-Plane Right Shoulder /10-13-D) deliver the Lag Pressure Loading (7-19) strongly down the StraightLine Delivery Path (of the Hands). In real time, the Club is driven stronglydownward, smashing through the Ball, through the Aiming Pointto the Low Point to the Both Arms Straight Position(Follow-Through / 8-11) from which you Swivel into your Finish.
The big idea -- if you haven't noticed! -- is "Down." StraightDown through the Aiming Point. Straight Down to the LowPoint of the Stroke. Only then, per 1-L 13/14/15, does the Club begin theUpward portion of its Orbit, and even then the Thrust continues Down Planeuntil the end of the Follow-Through (8-11).
Homer told me one time that very few golfers actually go all the way down.Almost all reach the Ball and begin their upward Motion before the LowPoint is reached. "Even Tour players," he said.
"They almost all come up, and I'm really kind of surprised when I seethem still take a divot."
I asked him for the name of a player who did go all the way down.
"Trevino," he said with a lowered voice and a growl.
"I like that guy. He hits a wedge, and you've got to help himget the club out of the ground!"
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Thanks you guys! Until reading these posts, I didn't realize that the right shoulder can be fired at the Aiming Point whether Hitting or Swining or 4 Barreling !____I struggled with Geometry in school...acne....the heartbreak of Psoriasis...my goldfish died...once!
A related question for me is the Greg McHatton's emphasis on "longitudinal acceleration." Does driving the Right/Back Shoulder to the Aiming Point provide the right "longitudinal acceleration" of the #3 PP? I would guess it does but if this should be further researched elsewhere, just say so.
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We don't have to assume that the aiming point is always in front of the ball...
I don't see how the hands can be moving down at impact...they could feel that way...but how could they if we assume rhythm? Assuming the same rpm would they not have to be moving up?
Right, as I said above, it can be behind the ball also, but on the Plane Line.
The hands can be moving down at Impact, but the club head will have been thrown away, unless, like Trevino, the ball is played in the center of the stance, and then before taking the club back, the feet are moved toward the target(the Trevino Two Step), locating the ball off the right foot.
Right, as I said above, it can be behind the ball also, but on the Plane Line.
The hands can be moving down at Impact, but the club head will have been thrown away, unless, like Trevino, the ball is played in the center of the stance, and then before taking the club back, the feet are moved toward the target(the Trevino Two Step), locating the ball off the right foot.
At risk of looking "nit-picky"....plane line OR DELIVERY LINE ...if you are using one of the alternate Delivery Line procedures...of course those being derived from the original Plane Line...
At risk of looking "nit-picky"....plane line OR DELIVERY LINE ...if you are using one of the alternate Delivery Line procedures...of course those being derived from the original Plane Line...
Agreed, along the Arc or Angle of Approach .... visually from the players perspective . Along the path of the club head blur so to speak . Or, along the club head path as seen in 3d space..... meaning the Aiming Point is not on the plane line except for balls played at low point.
Once again, from pg 83, in the context of compensation for different length clubs:
--2. move the Ball forward or aft of the established Aiming Point...
which would make no sense were the Aiming Point not on the Plane Line. The ball is never moved fore or aft on a delivery line.
Hey MJ.
By "Plane Line" I was referring to Low Point Plane Line , the Base of the Plane . As distinct form the IMpact Plane Line. The ball played at low point will sit on the Base Line Plane Line aka the Low Point Plane Line and the Impact Plane Line . But as the ball is moved back in the stance ... BACK , UP the plane and IN (3 dimensional ) along the on plane , circular club head orbit aka the delivery line of the club head, the distance between the Impact Plane Line and the Low Point Plane Line increase, widen . The ball played back in the stance sits on the Impact Plane Line but not the Low Point Plane Line or "plane line" in common speak.
Ah geometry in words, it sucks ...
You have to move the ball back along the delivery line of the club head assuming you want the club head to meet up with the ball.
Heres a diagram. Disregard the arrow , that curve from impact to low point along the circular club head orbit is the Delivery Line (and the Arc of Attack).
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