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Old 05-24-2010, 04:35 PM
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Cliff notes to become a hitter?
I have been working on trying to incorporate a hiiters motion. Working on maintaing the flying wedges thru impact. Shorter swings I can do it pretty well, longer the swing the more problems I encounter. Having a hard time keeping the club face square with the longer clubs, is there an adjustment for a hitters motion I should be using?

Anyway is there a raodmap I should be traveling down to succeed in my journey Trying to incorporate all the information from the vidoes and posts and think I might be on information overload and looking for some advice on what things I should be working on first.

Thank you in advance for any help.
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Old 05-24-2010, 05:34 PM
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Do you have the book? Check out 12-5-0. Its the only roadmap I know of. If you're Hitting do it with 12-1-0 in mind. Basic, Acquired , Total Motion is built, built , built.

What do you mean by "Clubface square"? If you mean square to the hole you need to read 2-C-0, it'll only stay square to the hole kinda sorta for Vertical Hinging, a cut shot. Trying to keep the face square to the hole is a popular misconception but a geometric death move for those seeking full compression. See Steering , Golfs first Snare, 3-F-7. Perhaps you're referring to Angled Hinging however......I dunno. In that case the Left Hand stays vertical to the Angled Plane, a natural by product of the physics of Thrusting. With a Push Fade tendency that can be corrected by closing the face when gripping the club at Fix. That would be the most common Hitters "adjustment" Id imagine.

Much of the book is derived from the geometry necessary at impact for total compression. This geometry isnt what it first appears to be. From an intellectual perspective that may be the place to start. See 2-C-0 and the various diagrams and discover why Ben Hogan advised us to the hit the "inside aft" of the ball. Why he thought the plane line pointed out to right field......it actually doesnt but in retrospect it was an understandable, perhaps even inspired insight though not correct.

Anyways, good luck with it. Sorry if this isnt the answer you had hoped for, or if Ive only added to your information overload. Everyone here has dealt with that predicament Im sure.

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Old 05-24-2010, 05:44 PM
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Thanks for the info. I do have the book and I will study when I get home.

Keeeping the club face square? Probably worded that wrong, I am have a problem with hitting pushes and or little slices. I thought I read somewhere it was harder closing the clubface when using a hitting procedure(I could be wrong)and something along the lines of starting with a slightly closed club
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Old 05-24-2010, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiteflash View Post
Thanks for the info. I do have the book and I will study when I get home.

Keeeping the club face square? Probably worded that wrong, I am have a problem with hitting pushes and or little slices. I thought I read somewhere it was harder closing the clubface when using a hitting procedure(I could be wrong)and something along the lines of starting with a slightly closed club
Yes, its a tendency of Angled Hinging. Try closing the face a little when gripping the club at Impact Fix. So hands stay the same but the face rotates a tad in the hands. It prevents the side slippage or rolling off the face and allows the point of contact between ball and clubface to stay intact throughout the Impact Interval....... like it does during Horizontal Hinging. Its a hard thing to adopt sometimes especially if your a former drawer of the ball but think of it as a necessary step along the way.

Some guys new to Angled who are still operating under the old ball flight rules start to see those little fades and pushes and try to make a clubhead path correction by pulling it to the left...............disaster resulting. Remember initial direction is clubFACE. Fix the Face by closing it a tad. Worse still is a flip to close the face during impact. Worse still is a pull and flip, ouch. Keep swinging out and down, "out to right field" along the Angle of Approach and deal with the face at Fix........Im assuming your Hinge Action is not the problem that its Angled and not slipping into Vertical or something. Doesnt sound like it. That would be low compression , lob shots.
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:26 PM
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Very good advice.

Hip action for a hitter? More of a slide? Anywhere in the book for hip action I should look up?

Thanks for answering all my questions I am sure you have seen numerous times
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiteflash View Post
Very good advice.

Hip action for a hitter? More of a slide? Anywhere in the book for hip action I should look up?

Thanks for answering all my questions I am sure you have seen numerous times
Not at all, just glad you're here and interested. It helps me too after all as it makes me think, define, research etc.

I hate to be so obvious but .....look at 12-1 assuming you have 7th edition. I dont , still reading out of the 6th, but I believe you'll see "Slide with a Delayed Turn" , 14 B and 15 B. The 6th has 14 A and 15 B. I like the Slide with a Delayed Turn , Hogan sure liked it too. (Please disregard the photos associated with Slide though, just read the text)

I believe its the same for Hitters and Swingers in 12-1 and 12-2 although some hitters given their lust for thrust (or perhaps some physical or psychological preference) have lazy hip turns going through the ball, but for them there is always the Angle of Approach. Some Hitters however, turn like a Swinger and use the ARc of Approach Procedure. So there is some room for the " Differences" amongst Hitters. There are some lazy hip turning , thrust meisters out there that are doing just fine. Nothing wrong with that. They just need to satisfy the 2-C-0 Impact Geometry and they're OK. No need for any charity benefits or whatever.

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