Clearing the right hip

[thackrad]

The phrase 'Clearing the right hip' on the downswing always conjured up images for me of 'getting the right hip out of the way' (of the right elbow).

Then it was suggested to me by a highly respected member of the TGM community that it really meant 'the right elbow clearing the right hip' ie getting the right elbow past the right hip before the hip turns.

Seems to me to be a lot of difference there. Far be it for me to doubt him, but I still get the impression from other esteemed members of the community that my original thought was right....

So which is it? The right hip getting out of the way so the right elbow can pass, or the right elbow passing before the right hip turns to the ball?

[comdpa]

The phrase 'Clearing the right hip' on the downswing always conjured up images for me of 'getting the right hip out of the way' (of the right elbow).

Then it was suggested to me by a highly respected member of the TGM community that it really meant 'the right elbow clearing the right hip' ie getting the right elbow past the right hip before the hip turns.

Seems to me to be a lot of difference there. Far be it for me to doubt him, but I still get the impression from other esteemed members of the community that my original thought was right....

So which is it? The right hip getting out of the way so the right elbow can pass, or the right elbow passing before the right hip turns to the ball?

thackrad,

Your original thought was correct. All you need to do is to compare the pictures in 8-6 and 8-7.

If you need more "proof" from the book, just holler...

Even TGM instructors are not exempted from "misteaching", therefore if possible, always let the book interpret itself.

[12 piece bucket]

thackrad,

Your original thought was correct. All you need to do is to compare the pictures in 8-6 and 8-7.

If you need more "proof" from the book, just holler...

Even TGM instructors are not exempted from "misteaching", therefore if possible, always let the book interpret itself.

Did you say "holler???" Corrupting people across oceans . . . you'll be picking your nose at stop lights with the windows down next! Welcome to the club Slinger.

[comdpa]

Did you say "holler???" Corrupting people across oceans . . . you'll be picking your nose at stop lights with the windows down next! Welcome to the club Slinger.

Ack...do you also flick 'em out???

[12 piece bucket]

Ack...do you also flick 'em out???

. . . . eat 'em.

[thackrad]

. . . . eat 'em.

Alert! Conversation warning! You are approaching the limits of good taste....

Thanks for clearing that up slinger.

[Mike O]

. . . . eat 'em.

I was just thinking today- Bucket's turned into plain white bread! Vanilla! Then you fire one out - just like good old times. In my opinion this is one of the best posts in the history of LBG- no offense to Lynn or the team of course!

[phillygolf]

The phrase 'Clearing the right hip' on the downswing always conjured up images for me of 'getting the right hip out of the way' (of the right elbow).

Then it was suggested to me by a highly respected member of the TGM community that it really meant 'the right elbow clearing the right hip' ie getting the right elbow past the right hip before the hip turns.

Seems to me to be a lot of difference there. Far be it for me to doubt him, but I still get the impression from other esteemed members of the community that my original thought was right....

So which is it? The right hip getting out of the way so the right elbow can pass, or the right elbow passing before the right hip turns to the ball?

How about moving the hips so you establish a straight line relationship to a straight line?

[thackrad]

Great question.

David Williams wrote in The Science of the Golf Swing that Hogan was wrong to say to clear the hips.
They should be geared together.
Homer said that a car engine had rhythm because nothing moves haphazardly.

Thanks Denny

So what would be your definitive answer on this sequence. Or are you saying there isn't a sequence as such and the hip clears at the same time as the elbow comes through?

Bucket - thanks for your tasty contribution..

[thackrad]

Since starting this thread I've begun to REALLY focus on hitting the back inside quadrant of the ball. I'm starting to find that the INTENT to do this at the top and start down is begining to transmit the message to the right hip to get out the way (without me consiously trying to do anything). I can feel the change in path (from before) and space for it being made.

Does this make sense?

I've just realised this might be what is meant by hand-controlled pivot - am I right? Is this more lightbulbs coming on?