Swinging with an angle hinge?

[JohnThomas1]

Can one swing successfully using an angled hinge or are the components not compatible?

[comdpa]

Can one swing successfully using an angled hinge or are the components not compatible?

JohnThomas1,

Please see 10-19-0, pg 192, last para.

[JohnThomas1]

JohnThomas1,

Please see 10-19-0, pg 192, last para.

Thank you kindly, looks like i might be in trouble if tooooo much skill is reqiured hehehe

[Matt]

Short answer: yes it's possible but you're always going to be fighting the inclination for the clubhead to close. If you do try it, make sure you feel less left wrist TURN going back and less ROLL coming through. I find it helps if I set up with a slightly open plane line and then try to "hold it off" coming through impact.

[JohnThomas1]

Short answer: yes it's possible but you're always going to be fighting the inclination for the clubhead to close. If you do try it, make sure you feel less left wrist TURN going back and less ROLL coming through. I find it helps if I set up with a slightly open plane line and then try to "hold it off" coming through impact.

Thanks Matt, good to see you still going strong

[jim_0068]

Swinging with an angled hinge is easy. It took me a while to find a way to reproduce it consistently and when i describe how to do it below some of you will probably chastize me lol.

Basically, everything in the backswing stays the same and everything up to impact stays the same.

What you have to ELIMINATE is the SWIVEL.

NO SWIVELING!

Once you get to "both arms straight" you have to have this feel of (here we go) letting the clubhead pass your hands.

Hope that helps.

[mattsdad]

Short answer: yes it's possible but you're always going to be fighting the inclination for the clubhead to close. If you do try it, make sure you feel less left wrist TURN going back and less ROLL coming through. I find it helps if I set up with a slightly open plane line and then try to "hold it off" coming through impact.

Matt,

In the Collin Neeman lesson videos, Lynn talks about promoting a fade by using angled hinging. I believe that Collin is a Swinger, so I am wondering how to reconcile your statement about the inclination of the clubhead to close (which is what I experience when I try to Swing with angled hinging) with Lynn's advice to Collin.

RT

[Matt]

Matt,

In the Collin Neeman lesson videos, Lynn talks about promoting a fade by using angled hinging. I believe that Collin is a Swinger, so I am wondering how to reconcile your statement about the inclination of the clubhead to close (which is what I experience when I try to Swing with angled hinging) with Lynn's advice to Collin.

RT

With angled hinging, the clubface will not close during the impact interval as much as it does with horizontal hinging. This in turn will impart some "fade" spin onto the ball. A perfectly centered impact with horizontal hinging produces perfect compression and, given the correct ball position, a dead-straight shot.

What Lynn means is that in general an angled hinge produces a fade. I was saying that when you do Swing with an angled hinge that due to the physics of Swinging the clubface WANTS to close. Each and every stroke you need to fight the tendency of the clubface to close down and produce horizontal hinging.

So in summary: when Swinging the clubface naturally wants to close through impact. To make an angled hinge, you can't let that happen. If you do successfully keep the closing action from happening, you will produce a slight fade. As usual with The Golfing Machine, things come full circle once again.

[tongzilla]

Matt,

In the Collin Neeman lesson videos, Lynn talks about promoting a fade by using angled hinging. I believe that Collin is a Swinger, so I am wondering how to reconcile your statement about the inclination of the clubhead to close (which is what I experience when I try to Swing with angled hinging) with Lynn's advice to Collin.

RT

I wonder why Lynn didn't teach Collin to just place the ball forwards a little and and retake the Grip with the Left Wrist Flat, Level and Vertical and the Clubface facing the initial target (Manipulated Hands Swinger). This would eliminate the need to produce the compensating Angled Hinging motion for the swinger.