Top Arc Angled line

[annikan skywalker]

Advice needed...

I have a few players who Top Arc /Angled Line who when they shift...from Turned Shoulder to the Elbow plane sometimes shift too low down to the Hands Only Plane through impact...

Thus running out of right arm....
Any ideas on how to reduce, but not eliminate..this excessive shift downward...

I have some ideas ...but would like to hear others!!!!

Skywalker

[comdpa]

Advice needed...

I have a few players who Top Arc /Angled Line who when they shift...from Turned Shoulder to the Elbow plane sometimes shift too low down to the Hands Only Plane through impact...

Thus running out of right arm....
Any ideas on how to reduce, but not eliminate..this excessive shift downward...

I have some ideas ...but would like to hear others!!!!

Skywalker

Try a square open plane line (10-5-B) which will encourage a delayed pivot (10-12-C).

[annikan skywalker]

How with this suggestion compensate for the change in the plane shift....Don't want to experiment unless we can forecast what will happen...I'm dealing with tournament level players here...NOT....wannabe's... thanx for your quick response and input

[MizunoJoe]

skywalker - what level are you talking about? I can't imagine any player who runs out of right arm, getting to a tournament level. At any rate wouldn't the easier fix be to change the player to a no-shift turned shoulder plane?

[EdZ]

work on maintaining extensor action during the downswing (assuming impact fix is correct)

are these players staying 'centered' or are they coming a bit out of their impact fix alignments?

[jim_0068]

skywalker - what level are you talking about? I can't imagine any player who runs out of right arm, getting to a tournament level. At any rate wouldn't the easier fix be to change the player to a no-shift turned shoulder plane?

I think changing their swing to a zero shift would be a bad idea. These players have properly had the same swing for the majority of their lives with only tinkering here and there. To have them make a drastic change in their plane and be able to perform it under tournament conditions would be a pretty long process.

[MizunoJoe]

Well alrighty then - we can get to the solution by elimination of bad ideas .

[SwingNorthtoSouth]

Maybe take a shorter backswing or one that feels shorter????

[Rhythm]

Teach them how to trace with the right forearm. Also show them what a straight line delivery path looks and feels like. Once they understand tracing a straight plane line, they may not feel like that have to shift so much to get on plane. It will feel like they go staight back down to the ball, that should be enough to get back on plane.

Or you could experiment with them having the feel of rotaing pp#3 to the top of the shaft on the downstroke, rather than feeling behind or slightly under. Players of that caliber should pick that up relatively easy.

[annikan skywalker]

Thanks for your responses...off to the lab!!!