Players Cavity: Opinions Needed

[tradekid]

For those of you who have played with the following irons:

Mizuno MP60
Taylormade TP Cavity Back
Bridgestone J33 Cavity Back

Your impressions. Looks, Feel, Playability, etc.

ALSO:

Feedback on Project X and Dynamic Gold.

I'm not going to tell you what I play now, or what my handicap is, or what I'm leaning towards. I will only say I am able to hold my own with any of the above. I'm looking for playing characteristics. I'm very familiar with Dynamic Golds but I have no idea about Project X.

I know, I know...I need to test these.

And I will. I'm just looking for opinions.

[nuke99]

The bridgestone is very similar to Titleist 690 CB. low bladish . MP 60 also bladish flight. I think both the same.

Bridgestone more clicky than MP60 a touch . but Both very similar in quality, but personally I lean towards the Bridgestone a little. The build is slightly better and its not as easy to get Nicked as mizunos.

But mizunos feel a little "Denser and softer" The difference doesnt bother me.

I only hit the TP a couple of times. They are ok too. But i did not really pay any attention to them.

Project X 5.5 have harder Butt section than dynamic gold S300. Project X have a slight higher launch and feels more accurate than dynamic gold. I personally don't like dynamic gold and prefer the SL or tour concept, I also feel SL are more accurate.. But thats personal.

[tradekid]

The bridgestone is very similar to Titleist 690 CB. low bladish . MP 60 also bladish flight. I think both the same.

Bridgestone more clicky than MP60 a touch . but Both very similar in quality, but personally I lean towards the Bridgestone a little. The build is slightly better and its not as easy to get Nicked as mizunos.

But mizunos feel a little "Denser and softer" The difference doesnt bother me.

I only hit the TP a couple of times. They are ok too. But i did not really pay any attention to them.

Project X 5.5 have harder Butt section than dynamic gold S300. Project X have a slight higher launch and feels more accurate than dynamic gold. I personally don't like dynamic gold and prefer the SL or tour concept, I also feel SL are more accurate.. But thats personal.

Thanks for the info. I appreciate the time you spent answering my question. It seems like everyone else on this site has their head stuck in the yellow book. "Play the game..... with golf clubs?" I guess if I asked the more SIMPLE question of "Why do I shank with dowels?" I'd get a straight answer. Sometimes I think 95% of the people on this site play golf in suspended animation.

[golfguru]

I hear many people asking for opinions on clubs over on iseekgolf.com and many a post goes up in reply. However each reply is a personal opinion on how the balls few for the individual which may or not relate to the original posters swing or their 'feelings' from their own mechanics.

I get to test a lot of clubs and a a terrible rule of thumb from your list I would place the Miz and Bridgestones in front of the TM from panel testing. Not my opinion but from those who get to play "test the clubs".

Go and try them all. The ones which fly best for you will speak all for themselves though. In any case make sure that you have a fitter sort you out prior or during the testing as otherwise you may end up testing apples vs bananas. The fitters will explain that for you, eg a reg 5 iron from one company may be very different in many regards than another.

[comdpa]

Thanks for the info. I appreciate the time you spent answering my question. It seems like everyone else on this site has their head stuck in the yellow book. "Play the game..... with golf clubs?" I guess if I asked the more SIMPLE question of "Why do I shank with dowels?" I'd get a straight answer. Sometimes I think 95% of the people on this site play golf in suspended animation.

Maybe 95% of the "people on this site" use blades.

Personally of the three sets, I prefer the look of the MP60 the most. The progression of the J33 irons from 3-9 did not appeal to me visually and I preferred the thinner topline of the MP60 as compared to the TPs.

Feel wise, Mizuno gets the nod as well - they did not get the status of #1 Iron on the PGA Tour for nothing.

Another thing I would really get you to look into is the loft spacing of the irons. You would ideally want 4 degrees between each iron so that you do not have too much of a distance gap.

Shaft wise, the Project X launches on a flatter trajectory than the Dynamic Gold.

DG SL is about 20 grams lighter than the DG. Not that significant amount of weight to actually effect an increase in swing speed, but enough to effect a change in feel.

Project X - not High Launch or Flighted - weighs about the same as DG but feels smoother.

Please take note that all my opinions are subjective, you may not feel the same.

Personally, I use DG X100 tipped an inch on Titleist 990s.

[nuke99]

Personally, I use DG X100 tipped an inch on Titleist 990s.

Real clubs for Real men.

[efnef]

FWIW, I've yet to find a so-called Player's Cavity that was easier to hit than a quality Blade. They are a half-a$ compromise between two different design concepts, and (to me) provide half-a$ results. I prefer, and play Hogan blades, but I would much rather play a full cavity back than one of the scalloped pseudo cavities. As Monty said, "I suppose they have a sweet spot, but I'm damned if I can find them..."

Subjective, but just my $00.02.

[tradekid]

Thanks guys. I was just trying to stimulate some back and forth banter about "players cavity backs". Right now I play Mizuno
MP-37"s. I'm a 4 handicap and have been playing for 40 years. Trust me the 37's are demanding irons. (They were kind of an impulse buy. Afterwards I realized the offset INCREASES as your progress to the pitching wedge.)Everything I've played has been a muscleback style blade. Old Wilson Sam Snead Blue Ridge, Hogan BH Grinds, Titleist bulletback blades then Mizuno 37's. Trust me, I don't change irons very often. But I'll be 52 next year and I'm thinking the swing won't be getting anymore precise in the years to come. Will a players cavity or a total players improvement iron like an Eye 2 make a difference?

I apologize to those who shank with dowels or play in suspended animation.

[12 piece bucket]

http://www.miuragolf.com/shop.asp

Crafted with the same precision of the samurai sword.

[psheehan]

Trade
I play MP60's, they replaced my MP29's about a year ago. Prior to that I had hit but didn't particlarly like Miz Pro's and Pro II's. The difference? very small but measureable.... I'm always getting kidded by people in my group who say "nice shot" in the air while I'm saying "it was thin or toed" and "it won't get there" and it does. The top line of the club is pretty blade like, so I don't have a problem looking at it.... the clubs are workable (although at 3.2 index I don't work anything I don't have to).