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The thought of the shoulders rotating is dangerous. (OTT) The shoulders (the right shoulder) should travel on the incline plane and the thought should be to move the arms and hands down, drop or vertical.
As the right shoulder travels down the incline plane and since the incline plane has an horizontal and a vertical axis, the left shoulder rotates on the horizontal axis of the incline plane.
This fulfills the horizontal relocation of the swing center but to just rotate them horizontally with a stationary right shoulder is no good at all.
The arms and hands need to down vertical not out horizontally. It is a blend of two axis, the horizontal pivot of the lower body and the vertical however the incline of the arms. I think Manzella’s idea nails it. And highlights the importance of Hula Hula 7-14/7-15.
Bts, the rotation of the arms, the turn and roll you mention, is rhythm and not part of either the horizontal or vertical movement of the pivot and arms.
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