[vjcapron]

vjcapron....I like most of your posts

So please do not take any of the following as personal...my writing style does take on a hint of sarcasm...but not directly a personal attack...Are we okay with that?

Hell yeah I'm okay with that. I learn a little something from 90% of your posts.

Golfer #1 is Matt Kutchar...NOT...Nick Price....His club is "Rolled - Out" off plane by a premature Roll of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge thus changing the hand to plane relationship....hope he angle hinges this one...

I saw the clubface position and I immediately thought that it just had to be Nick Price. I've got some video from '93 of Nicky P. in very much the same position...and I couldn't believe back then what I was seeing.

Golfer #2 is Ted Tryba....His club is outside his hand path due to two much #2 accumulator(Doulble Action) with a 10-2-D GRIP TYPE...THIS IS OKAY FOR PLAYING CUT SHOTS WITH ANGLED HINGING...

I just learned another REASON why someone can be off plane instead of just recognizing that the clubshaft IS off plane. I understand what you are saying here.

Golfer #3 is Big Mac...You're Right....but that is NOT the Clubhead near his right leg...it is a shadow ...for the facts are that Mac is the only player with the right elbow, right forearm, #3 Pressure Point , and the LCG on the plane angle....The reason you cannot see the clubhead ...It's covering his right hand!!! Sorry for the picture quality...

Golfer #4 is Tiger Woods....At the 1999 US Open in Pinehurst...2 Stations down from me and Clearwater...Unfortunatley...Haney was working with O'Meara who BTW was the "dude between Clearwater and Tiger....Butchie was behind El Tigre....Obviously Tiger knew Hank....But Butchie was his MAN on that day!!!

If Butchie was his man that day, I guess he was just a "little stuck" on that swing.

Golfer #5 is Fred Couples...I agree from a 15-20 degree open stanceline about the straight line delivery...Right Forearm Flying Wedge intact-Yes....On-Plane?

Have you seen the swing sequence in Freddy's book "Total Shotmaking", taken back when Freddy was #1 in the world? I'll try to scan it and post it this week. His downswing plane and flying wedges are textbook TGM.

Golfer #7 is VJ....What is so Awesome? Other than the fact he's #2 in the world and won a whole lot of tournaments in the past few years...If he wasn't #2 in the world and didn't practice more than anyone else....Who really would notice? Besides I think what makes VJ awesome is he's strengthned his whole game....

I saw your post about Vijay's "Mess" and I agreed with most of your analysis. However, on this swing, is he not closer to the "right elbow, right forearm, #3 Pressure Point , and the LCG on the plane angle" than any of the other golfers in this post?.

Golfer #8 is Bob Tway....Define perfectly on-plane? Lost a little bit of waist bend and knee bend here?

Well, the club is parallel to the ground and parallel to the target line. The toe is pointing straight up in the air. Okay, so he might be a hair under the yellow line, which explains his preference for repeating a drawing ball flight.

Golfer #9 is Joey Sindelar....Yes...I agree definitely a 15-Handicappers swing....But he'd probably ask us sarcastically "How many PGA TOUR Events have we won with our swings?"

A lot of ways to get it done. He does cut most of his shots though, doesn't he? He's got to hit fades from that position.

Golfer #10 is Tom Watson......It'a wonder he won 8 majors. What defined Watson...isn't technique...It's all the intangible of a True Champion..and a HOT putter for a while!!!!!

I've always admired his golf swing even though it is not the most mechanically efficient action. I love Watson's upbeat, one-two tempo and his rhythm. I enjoy watching him hit bunker shots - his rhythm doesn't change and he gets the best "thump" in the greenside bunkers. He picks it clean with the long irons and digs out a nice pork chop with the short irons. I love how he fully turns the hips on the backswing - easy on the back. His champions tour career should last until he hits 60+. His five-under-par 65 in the first round of the 2003 Open at Olympia Fields with Bruce Edwards on the bag was special.