[Mike O]

Thanks for the attention.

For (1), it's just my idea of how the force and body movements flow during a swing, which might relate to the three quotes made earlier by Tongzilla.

For (2), again, I believe the body movement is the result/"effect" of (or reaction to) the intention (or the "cause"). In other words, there is an intention behind every concious body movement.

The "body movement" can be observed and analized by the viewers (but not the player in action without looking into a mirror or monitor) or felt by the player (maybe by the viwers) with certain attention.

Unless shared, however, the "intention" can hardly be known to the outsider. Even the player him/herself sometimes is confused. No wonder people get shocked all the time when viewing their own swings.

I believe "knowing what happens (or what is supposed to happen)" is one thing, "making it happen" is the other.

OK, That didn't help me. But I think this could be a good discussion so I want to pursue it. If I could take one item at a time- then regarding item #2 - Quoted: "For (2), again, I believe the body movement is the result/"effect" of (or reaction to) the intention (or the "cause"). In other words, there is an intention behind every concious body movement."

I absolutely agree with what you said in item #2, but it didn't help me understand your orginal post. My question to you regarding #2 is - What is the intention behind the golf swing movement?

Actually, upon re-reading your second post (#21), I see you're making the distinction that what your intention is and what's happening in the movement are two different things- A very important distinction in movement theory- so I'm with you 100% with that. But that's where I wanted you to clarify your post#15 in this thread. Say to specifically #1 in that post- what are you saying is happening and what are you saying is the intention, in regards to the golf swing. And staying on that thought- in regards to #1 in post #21, how do you see the forces flowing/working, in that regard. And, again I wasn't sure if your post#15 was supporting my previous post, or if you had a different perspective.