hands only plane

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The more they tend towards a horizontal plane, the more their characteristics will tend towards a horizontal hinge and a horizontal plane.

In reference to your post, the hands only plane will be closer to a horizontal plane.

The more they tend towards a vertical plane, the more their characteristics tend towards a vertical hinge and a vertical plane.

In reference to your post, the turning shoulder plane will be closer to a vertical plane.

Thanks for this clarification comdpa, but I still have some fog related to vj's original post:

Being around good players I began to notice the "lack" of divot most of them produce around the green. They also have exceptional height to their shots without throwaway.

Hands only plane tends toward horizontal, which will contribute to a shallower divot. Positioning the ball closer to low point will also contribute to the shallower divot. But, hands only plane also makes hinging more toward horizontal, which would produce a slightly lower trajectory with more roll.

So, here is my understanding. Please correct me or fill in missing information:
As it relates to shots around the green, the hands only plane is used because it takes less of a divot, thus picking the ball more cleanly off the turf. Is this correct, or is there another reason for the hands only plane?
In order to obtain the "height" vj mentioned, you would need to use vertical hinging or at least manipulate the hands away from horizontal or angled more toward vertical, correct?

Also, conventional wisdom says that the ball is back from low point for chip shots. Is that true for the shot vj is referring to? Does using the hands only plane reduce the importance of ball position?

I would like to hear what vj's thoughts were when he started this thread. Specifically, how does the hands only plane help in making better shots around the green? Please fill in the blanks. Thanks!