Guys, I hate to change gears (it's angled hinge related though), looking at Masters highlights from yesterday's round at Masters.org, I found Freddy Couples executing a perfect little right arm hitting pitch shot (with angled hinging) at hole number 9, if you can find the highlight (masters searchable video, round 2, 2006) it's worth watching. Here is the title of the highlight:
Checkout how Freddy loses the lag at the end of the stroke...
Title: 2006 Masters Tournament
Player: Fred Couples (United States)
Round: Round 2
Description: Couples Hops Past Hole at No. 9
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 04-08-2006 at 07:27 AM.
Short answer: yes it's possible but you're always going to be fighting the inclination for the clubhead to close. If you do try it, make sure you feel less left wrist TURN going back and less ROLL coming through. I find it helps if I set up with a slightly open plane line and then try to "hold it off" coming through impact.
Matt,
In the Collin Neeman lesson videos, Lynn talks about promoting a fade by using angled hinging. I believe that Collin is a Swinger, so I am wondering how to reconcile your statement about the inclination of the clubhead to close (which is what I experience when I try to Swing with angled hinging) with Lynn's advice to Collin.
In the Collin Neeman lesson videos, Lynn talks about promoting a fade by using angled hinging. I believe that Collin is a Swinger, so I am wondering how to reconcile your statement about the inclination of the clubhead to close (which is what I experience when I try to Swing with angled hinging) with Lynn's advice to Collin.
RT
With angled hinging, the clubface will not close during the impact interval as much as it does with horizontal hinging. This in turn will impart some "fade" spin onto the ball. A perfectly centered impact with horizontal hinging produces perfect compression and, given the correct ball position, a dead-straight shot.
What Lynn means is that in general an angled hinge produces a fade. I was saying that when you do Swing with an angled hinge that due to the physics of Swinging the clubface WANTS to close. Each and every stroke you need to fight the tendency of the clubface to close down and produce horizontal hinging.
So in summary: when Swinging the clubface naturally wants to close through impact. To make an angled hinge, you can't let that happen. If you do successfully keep the closing action from happening, you will produce a slight fade. As usual with The Golfing Machine, things come full circle once again.
In the Collin Neeman lesson videos, Lynn talks about promoting a fade by using angled hinging. I believe that Collin is a Swinger, so I am wondering how to reconcile your statement about the inclination of the clubhead to close (which is what I experience when I try to Swing with angled hinging) with Lynn's advice to Collin.
RT
I wonder why Lynn didn't teach Collin to just place the ball forwards a little and and retake the Grip with the Left Wrist Flat, Level and Vertical and the Clubface facing the initial target (Manipulated Hands Swinger). This would eliminate the need to produce the compensating Angled Hinging motion for the swinger.
Swinging with an angled hinge is easy. It took me a while to find a way to reproduce it consistently and when i describe how to do it below some of you will probably chastize me lol.
Basically, everything in the backswing stays the same and everything up to impact stays the same.
What you have to ELIMINATE is the SWIVEL.
NO SWIVELING!
Once you get to "both arms straight" you have to have this feel of (here we go) letting the clubhead pass your hands.
Hope that helps.
Exactly what I do too. Thank G__ I'm not the only one.
With angled hinging, the clubface will not close during the impact interval as much as it does with horizontal hinging. This in turn will impart some "fade" spin onto the ball. A perfectly centered impact with horizontal hinging produces perfect compression and, given the correct ball position, a dead-straight shot.
What Lynn means is that in general an angled hinge produces a fade. I was saying that when you do Swing with an angled hinge that due to the physics of Swinging the clubface WANTS to close. Each and every stroke you need to fight the tendency of the clubface to close down and produce horizontal hinging.
So in summary: when Swinging the clubface naturally wants to close through impact. To make an angled hinge, you can't let that happen. If you do successfully keep the closing action from happening, you will produce a slight fade. As usual with The Golfing Machine, things come full circle once again.
Thanks for the comment BM. Would opening it up on the way back equate to horizontal hinging? also when then not swiveling back on the way down leave the ball to the right? I thought if we opened it on the way back then we had to close it on the way down. Thanks for any help mate
For me it doesn't at all.....feel like I'm gonna miss ridiculously right that is. I hit to a trajectory right now that I'm very happy with. Straight fade to slight push fade. Perfect IMO. I don't have to feel like I'm ever holding off a hook.....I just rotate my torso to the left as hard as I can really....while Axis-Tilting of course....to get shoulder downplane.
I'm prolly adding some right arm thrust through Impact but I'm not sure.
I feel no inclination to Horizontal Hinge to tell you the truth.
Swinging with an angled hinge is easy. It took me a while to find a way to reproduce it consistently and when i describe how to do it below some of you will probably chastize me lol.
Basically, everything in the backswing stays the same and everything up to impact stays the same.
What you have to ELIMINATE is the SWIVEL.
NO SWIVELING!
Once you get to "both arms straight" you have to have this feel of (here we go) letting the clubhead pass your hands.
Hope that helps.
Jim,
When you say "(b)asically, everything in the backswing stays the same and everything up to impact stays the same" does this mean you use a typical Swinger's takeaway swivel and sequenced release?
When you say "(b)asically, everything in the backswing stays the same and everything up to impact stays the same" does this mean you use a typical Swinger's takeaway swivel and sequenced release?
RT
Exactly. Same takeaway, same sequenced release, same downswing move.
I just eliminate the swivel by letting my left wrist breakdown after both arms straight. However i have REALLY good clubface control. So this may not be the smartest option for everyone.
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