[lagster]

lagster ,help me here, if the clubface is closed 2 degrees AT IMPACT,and is square at seperation I assumed it must be opening. If "a good plane " is what I consider to be inside aft quadrant FROM A SQUARE/ SQUARE setup, surely this is vertical hingeing?. I find it difficult to feel what is being described -it is the "closed at impact square at seperation'bit which is getting me

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I think I see what you are saying. Angled Hinging is technically "simultaneous closing and layback."

If the Plane is good... I'm not sure a CLOSED FACE can hit the Inside Quadrant AT IMPACT. It would have to BE OPENING to get to SQUARE at SEPARATION.

This seems to me like an Action similar to what Trevino might have. If the ball comes off Square at separation, and the club is on plane... well.

Maybe some others will chime in.