Squaring the Face (again)

[bergsey]

Following on from a previous thread...

When swinging my woods i don't conciously think about squaring the face - it all happens and if i'm on plane i get a nice draw.

With the irons, i'm getting blocks or pushes which are progressively more pronounced as the loft increases (i.e. worse with the wedges).

I've checked my ball position and it is ok and i set up at impact fix.

Am i subconiously "steering" or holding off the CF release as i get closer to the target? Is it bad to focus on a swing thought of "must horizontal hinge" for these shots? Again with the driver or woods in hand no problems.

[Toolish]

Following on from a previous thread...

When swinging my woods i don't conciously think about squaring the face - it all happens and if i'm on plane i get a nice draw.

With the irons, i'm getting blocks or pushes which are progressively more pronounced as the loft increases (i.e. worse with the wedges).

I've checked my ball position and it is ok and i set up at impact fix.

Am i subconiously "steering" or holding off the CF release as i get closer to the target? Is it bad to focus on a swing thought of "must horizontal hinge" for these shots? Again with the driver or woods in hand no problems.

Out of interest, how far do you draw driver.

Could it be that the starting line is the same for both, but due to the backspin the ball just isn't coming back as much with the shorter clubs?

[bergsey]

G'day Toolish,

The draw is pretty slight (hard to say but a couple of metres at most on a drive?), mostly straight. Definately not the aim down the right rough and draw it back into the middle type draw.

Cheers

[Daryl]

Do you "Push" the ball when Chipping and/or Pitching Shots?

[bergsey]

Do you "Push" the ball when Chipping and/or Pitching Shots?

No not normally, although i've had the odd shank in the shortgame

[Daryl]

Do you Finish your Total Motion Iron shots or do you stop short of fully finishing?

[bergsey]

Do you Finish your Total Motion Iron shots or do you stop short of fully finishing?

I swing through to a full finish, not trying to hit a 'punch' type shot if that is what you are asking?

If i feel like i'm forcing a horizontal hinge then i'm ok - without thinking about "you've got to roll" then out comes the pushes

Does this mean i'm manipulating my hands or just trying to overcome subconcious steering?

[Daryl]

I swing through to a full finish, not trying to hit a 'punch' type shot if that is what you are asking?

If i feel like i'm forcing a horizontal hinge then i'm ok - without thinking about "you've got to roll" then out comes the pushes

Does this mean i'm manipulating my hands or just trying to overcome subconcious steering?

I'm only trying to isolate the Pivot as a possibility of where the fault may originate. If you easily finish your swing, then the pivot is probably ok. But your Pitch shots are ok. Hmm? Try pitching 20,40,50,60,70, and 80 yards with your Wedge working up from Acquired Motion to Full Motion. Try to isolate when the Pushing or Blocking occurs.

[bergsey]

I'm only trying to isolate the Pivot as a possibility of where the fault may originate. If you easily finish your swing, then the pivot is probably ok. But your Pitch shots are ok. Hmm? Try pitching 20,40,50,60,70, and 80 yards with your Wedge working up from Acquired Motion to Full Motion. Try to isolate when the Pushing or Blocking occurs.

The pushing occurs from acquired motion to the full swing if i don't conciously focus on closing the face... say from 20m and out. Chips and shorter shots are ok probably because the face doesn't open up as much on the backstroke.

[Daryl]

The pushing occurs from acquired motion to the full swing if i don't conciously focus on closing the face... say from 20m and out. Chips and shorter shots are ok probably because the face doesn't open up as much on the backstroke.

I don't know. It's an unusual problem; the shorter the iron the more right it's pushed.