[spike]

Those movements are unorthodox for everyone else in the world but are 'his' orthodox movements. Repeat what you can, no matter how you do it, in your own way,BUT fulfil the laws of physics and geometry at IMPACT and you got it. EDUCATE THE HANDS!!!!!!

Vik

No question about it. Thanks Vic and will do.

I am new to TGM and believe wholeheartedly in the 3 essentials and 3 imperitives, the 3 functions and the 3 stations. I'm just not that good yet with patterns.

Just a question,tho. Do you mean that unorthodox swings cannot be described as a pattern? Or were you just saving me from a major headache?

Thanks again,
spike