[grapegoat]

one thing that is probably the most misunderstud term is the back,up,and in. most dont realize when read, herd or however the information comes to them exactly how this is applied. futhermore the second reason in my book has to be under or over rotation of the forearms. for me to imitate the image of tiger puts the club way under plane and makes for some unreliable compensations as to where for most if the student can get the club moving up more similar to the image of Grant Wait and even Bobby Jones is more reliable and easier to control in my opinion.