[YodasLuke]

how did you manage in a short time to change his swing to an onplane phenom? Would you mind sharing what you mean by extremes? very cool, thanks

He had Turning in the Backstroke, but he started Rolling between Top and End. I have no idea how he acquired this motion, nor did he.

We used some simple thoughts: 1. with flashlights on both ends of the club, attempting to point the grip end outside the Plane Line, 2. trying to point the club directly behind him (feeling perpendicular to the Plane) instead of parallel to the Plane Line at End

Since he had obviously never tried to accomplish #2, he understood why he never would have made the change. It was this feeling that we captured on video.

He hated the feel. But, when he saw the results, he was totally willing to practice this way until we meet again. I believe that it's the willingness to go to the extremes that gets immediate change.