MFT swing

[Yoda]

HB

Thanks for commenting. Unfortunately, I haven't the foggiest idea what you are talking about - I usually need detailed explanations to understand a person's alternative perspective.

Read the title of my post #7. That's my immediate take. My guess is that it's not far off.

[Hennybogan]

HB

Thanks for commenting. Unfortunately, I haven't the foggiest idea what you are talking about - I usually need detailed explanations to understand a person's alternative perspective.

Jeff.

I'll try to show my perspective over the next few days. I don't think this guy has all the pieces, but he is on to something. I think bucket is sniffing as well.

As I said, always searching though a TGM filter. The geometry never changes. The ball responds to the geometry. Maybe we can stretch the physics.

[Hennybogan]

Lynn,

You may know that Bucket and I converse frequently. The more we go round, the more we both think that Homer has it, but we are short in understanding his genius.

Homer might not have understood the need for a 200 yard 6 iron hit to the moon, but I think he would have understood how to do it.

[Uppndownn]

HB,

Let me know when that draft of your first book is.
I would love to check it out.

UPP in Ohio

[CalSr]

Creating power gets attention! Could Ben Doyle's reference to snapping the hips have a relationship to this MFT swing?

CalSr

[Bagger Lance]

Creating power gets attention! Could Ben Doyle's reference to snapping the hips have a relationship to this MFT swing?

CalSr

Exactly what I was thinking big daddy.

When you take a lesson with Ben make sure your belt loops are strong, otherwise they will get ripped off as he teaches you to "hit the ball with your pivot".
We have some video of Ben doing exactly that with a student.

[Jeff]

Bagger - what do you mean when you say "learn to hit the ball with your pivot"?

Consider a pivot-driven swing in a swinger - he uses the pivot to load and release PA#4.

Here is an example of the release of PA#4 - by Ben Hogan.

When PA#4 is released in the mid-downswing, the left arm moves towards impact, and then PA#2 and then PA#3 are released passively.

Is that what you mean by "learn to hit the ball with your pivot"?

Jeff.

[Yoda]

Bagger - what do you mean when you say "learn to hit the ball with your pivot"?

More precisely . . .

What does Ben Doyle mean when he says "learn to hit the ball with your pivot?"

That distinction made, I think you've got the idea.

[pistol]

Bagger - what do you mean when you say "learn to hit the ball with your pivot"?

Consider a pivot-driven swing in a swinger - he uses the pivot to load and release PA#4.

Here is an example of the release of PA#4 - by Ben Hogan.

When PA#4 is released in the mid-downswing, the left arm moves towards impact, and then PA#2 and then PA#3 are released passively.

Is that what you mean by "learn to hit the ball with your pivot"?

Jeff.

Jeff why do you consider Hogan has released all of #4 at this point? Why do you consider Hogan passively releases $3 when he has so much of it to roll out. Ever consider Hogan blew some #3 off earlier?
You insist he is a swinger and does it by the yellow book ( so to speak) but how does this match up to a cp release with an angle hinge orientation ?

[Jeff]

Pistol - I was taught here at this website that PA#4 is completely released when the left arm-chest wall angle is 90 degrees. Hogan achieves that 90 degree release angle by impact, so I presume that he has completely released PA#4 by impact.

It is my personal opinion that Hogan is a swinger - based on watching his swing video many times. If I am correct, then PA#3 release is essentially a passive phenomenon and not due to the active release of PA#1 that thrusts the straightening right arm through impact. If you have reason to believe otherwise, please provide the "evidence" (and the statement "I wish I had three right hands cannot be considered "evidence").

I do not believe that Hogan always used angled hinging, He sometimes employed horizontal hinging. However, I think that he preferred angled hinging because he preferred a power fade shot, rather than a low penetrating draw. I think that he was skilled enough to use either angled or horizontal hinging at will.

Jeff.