LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Elbowplane the flattest usable swingplane? Thread: Elbowplane the flattest usable swingplane? View Single Post #4 06-01-2009, 08:48 AM KevCarter Lynn Blake Certified Associate Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,955 Originally Posted by chrisgolf I really like the yellow Book, but to difine my own Golfswing there are things that ar not stated! For example the flattest usable swingplane is the elbow plane- I use the HANDSPLANE. If it is not stated in the yellow Book IT IS WRONG!!! 10-7-G. THE REVERSE LOOP This is similar to the Reverse Shift except that the Shift is made from the Squared Shoulder Plane Angle but also is done with a looping motion of the Clubhead. Handled with skill, this Shift can be very effective. So I am using a reverse Loop from Elbowplane to the Hands only plane with quite good success but it is not stated in the yellow Book! So please TGM followers take a look at my Swing at youtube!!! http://www.youtube.com/user/tarifachris So for Mr. Kelly I am hitting constantly accidents? This really confuse me because he gave us so many good pieces... Chris Hi Chris, I feel a little responsible for leading you down the wrong path. My ill conceived attempt at defining an S&T motion using TGM Hitting principles should not have been uploaded as it totally confused a lot of issues... While S&T has it's roots in TGM principles, many of the definitions used mean different things within the two systems. Some things are not interchangeable. I know you have made an attempt at defining your swing much the way I did... I apologize for sending you on what may be a wild goose chase... I have gone back to square one and am making a concerted effort to learn TGM fundamentals before considering more advanced pattern concepts. Kevin __________________ I could be wrong. I have been before, and will be again. ALIGNMENT G.O.L.F. KevCarter View Public Profile Send a private message to KevCarter Visit KevCarter's homepage! Find all posts by KevCarter