LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Geometry of the circle and how it applies to shot shaping . Thread: Geometry of the circle and how it applies to shot shaping . View Single Post #9 12-25-2012, 03:26 PM HungryBear Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 759 Originally Posted by O.B.Left I get you. So to talk geometry for a moment (cause Im too lazy to draw it) the club without hook face for balls played back of low point (given no grip rotation) will hit straight shots but pushed to the right . No divergence between face and path. However a similarly positioned ball with a hooked face club hits a ball that has an initial line of flight which is a cord to the circle . Along the Impact Plane Line if the face is so aligned. But the clubhead does not travel along this plane line it travels the circular orbit and continues down and out to low point. Which to me implies a divergence between and path .... albeit lessened by steeper plane angles... ah crap I guess I should draw this.... The steepness of the plane angle and the added loft of the most hooked face clubs could negate draw spin. But there's more to the story if Homer thought that balls played forward of the Straight Away position had a fade tendency. And therein lies the point I wish Lynn or Ted or the ghost of Homer would clarify Or perhaps I have things all askew.. ? It wouldnt be the first time , nor the last. Maybe I should research the audio tapes. We need to define the Straight Away Position . No No, If the ball es struck at the point for streight fleight then the ball will have a fade tendency even if it is still before low point. So HK is correct- (I don't have to say that)forward of the STRAIGHT AWAY POSITION is the key wording. First thing is to know if ypu are a true swinger or "otherwise" because the ball goes otherwise if you hit it otherwise.. HB Last edited by HungryBear : 12-25-2012 at 03:34 PM. HungryBear View Public Profile Send a private message to HungryBear Find all posts by HungryBear